They're the only ones, also - the Caravan is terrible and outdated and the pacifica is rly expensive for a minivan

the base pacifica is less expensive than the base sienna and the base odyssey

If it's like that, what the difference between a full-size SUV like the Yukon or Suburban compared to a minivan. Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey can seat 8 or 7 people. And, the minivans are a lot cheaper than the SUVs, something like about 30,000 to 50,000.

 

 

 

Are they used for different purpose? Or why do people choose each one?

A suburban can do things a minivan can't. It has much more engine power than a sienna, so it can actually tow things. A suburban can also handle rough terrain, a sienna cannot. A suburban also has a tiny bit more storage space. minivans are also not cool at all

The new version of the Suburban/Yukon XL gets 16 mpg which isn't the greatest, but is an improvement over the old 13 mpg. BTW, the Suburban can fit 9 people in a 3-3-3 layout.

You can't fit three people in the front row of a suburban. Not only are there only two seats, but to carry 8 passengers (so 9 including driver) you need a special drivers license, at least in North Carolina and i assume in many other US states. 

Reasons Concorde is NOT a good regional airliner:

1.) Noise (Very noisy turbojets with afterburners for takeoff), banned from many airports at night for noise abatement reasons.
2.) Takeoff Run:
Concorde: 11,800ft at MTOW, SL, and ISA.
A320: 6,900ft at MTOW, SL, and ISA.
3.) Fuel Consumption (Longer route: lower impact from takeoff fuel consumption):
Concorde: 46.85lb/mi (standard mile) on Max Range (3900nmi (nautical mile ~=1.15 standard mile)) with 100 seats.
A320: 10.3lb/mi on 2151nmi with 150 seats.
4.) Crew:
Concorde: 2 Pilots + Flight Engineer.
A320: 2 Pilots.
5.) Passengers:
Concorde: 100 (All Economy High Density).
A320: 150 (2 Class), 180 (All Economy), 189 (All Economy High Density).
6.) Fuel Carriage: LOADS (It uses it to trim the aircraft because of the lack of a movable tail).
7.) Maintenance:
Concorde: Old-fashioned trial and error.
A320: Computer-aided troubleshooting.
8.) Supersonic: Only allowed over open ocean due to sonic boom concerns.
9.) Cockpit:
Concorde: Analogue, outdated, lacks modern navigation technology.
A320: Cutting-edge short-range computerised cockpit technologies.
10.) Range (Low in regional airliners to keep weight down):
Concorde: 3,900nmi.
A320: 3,300nmi.
I know the A320 isn't regional either but, for the benefits of the range similarity and the large amount of available data, I chose to use it for comparison purposes.

oh my god he was obviously joking

incredibly low turn times (like 3 minutes)

You know - IFS and IFE that a real airline would do, realistic hours and a low amount of fleet types.

One could also define 'good' as an airline that has a very high valuation and finishes high on the leaderboard. It's all subjective.

Hey, you CAN get trophies from REPUTATION!!!

These people don't play the way I want them to and that makes me ANGRY!!! 

Which people? Me or spamliners?

I was trying to point out the passionate hatred you seem to have for people who play to get the highest valuation.

Okay - since this is about me in the first place, I'm going to settle it. Cabin is totally irrelevant pretty much, that's just operator. I was just saying that in my experience, Delta A320 cabins have consistently been a lot worse than their 737 cabins. About the A321, whatever, that could be done with a 737 easilly, Malaysian is doing something like that with the 737 MAX 10 possibly if they ever release the goddamed interiors. I realize that some of you (ahem, not naming names here), prefer the A320 while flying, but may I remind you that the A320 has has a few incidents due to it being difficult to understand and fly. The Air France flight which was a flyover at an air show, the air Inter flight, and the AirAsia flight. I'm sure those of you who are educated in this would know what I'm talking about. There was once an incident blamed on airbus' fly-by-wire, which was QF72 i believe is the flight number, uncommanded pitch excursions if i'm not mistaken. There was also AF442 which was partly because of no AOA indicator in the cockpit. Finally, as you mentionned yourself, the 737 is a more agile and enjoyable plane to fly. I'm not blaming Boeing for RyanAir's bullsh** as well. Now - the numbers: Boeing 737-700 has 740 nmi more range than the A319, while having a similar seating capacity. When comparing max to neo: MAX 8 has 15nmi range more than 320neo. MAX9 has 15nmi more range than A321neo. The max7 has 75nmi more range than the 319neo. Also - I'm comparing fly-by-wire planes here, not the classic to the nextgen, I don't care how new the nextgen is or isn't. When you use a ratio of age to crashes A320 to 737 nextgen, the 737 wins by a long shot. Now: Operators. I can't pick who flies what, but in this case, it does favor boeing quite a bit. A320 is operated by IndiGo, Go Air, EasyJet, Spirit, Frontier, and many other terrible LCCs. LCC 737 operators include SouthWest, Alaska, and others, which are quite less terrible than their counterparts. Not to say that there aren't exceptions - JetBlue A320s are pretty nice, and Ryanair 737s aren't the best, but still. In terms of the TransCon config on American's A321s, anyone can, as I already said. I could make a similar config on a 737-900/ER, 737 MAX9 or 10, or on a 757, or even a 767 if I wanted to, or possibly a 787, much nicer plane. Anyhow, Delta and United both operate quite premium-ified 757s transcon, so that point is pretty invalid. 737 also uses a Yoke, which is better than a sidestick, although I'm sure many will disagree on that one. The yoke is easier to control, and you can use your left hand for other operations if you want (as captian), instead of needing it to fly with. The SideStick also favors people who are able to easily control a plane with their left hand as captain, while the yoke permits both left-and-right handed people to fly easily. (see, I told you I give long and nasty arguments stop arguing )

have you ever flown a plane

Have you ever seen a Delta A320 cabin?

 

 

Really, if you compare 737s and A320s that have had their cabins installed around the same time, you'll find that they're pretty similar.

 

Also if we're going to discuss the "best" cabin based on whatever the airline has installed in it, I think you'll find that American's A321s are probably the best narrowbody aircraft in commercial service:

 

 

Only a select few of american A321s look like that. Flew one recently from CLT-PHX and it was pretty boring, regular economy class, same as the 738s.

Well a person from the Vancouver/Seattle area would logically love Boeing more than Airbus, would they not? Plus, Boeing has a better range on its fleet than Airbus, the 737 can go all the way from 140-220 seats, while the A320 series goes from 160-220 (not counting the A318, which is like a wider slower not-at-all-like-a-Concorde Concorde). Besides, AE doesn't really matter as far as aviation goes.

The A318 is like the same size as the 736, the 319 like the 737, the 320 like the 738 and the a321 like the 739. I don't understand what you mean by better range.

I would like to disagree on comfort in economy. The inch in seat width makes a huge difference, even for someone with a really skinny frame. Hence why I would rather fly an A320 than a 737. I would prefer almost any widebody to either though. 737s are absolute rockets though, their performance is insane. I've never seen the Boeing factory, but I can tell that it is an impressive thing. I want to visit the place at some point. 

 

However, I have very limited respect for Boeing since they claimed harm from Bombardier selling aircraft which were in a completely different market segment (125 seats, which is much smaller than anything Boeing makes). I hope Bombardier get plenty of money in damages. It was a poor move on the part of Boeing.

Weren't Bombardier selling their aircraft at a loss to begin with?

I've said this before, but surely the comfort level says more about the airline than the aircraft. Flying a Ryanair 737 will be much less comfortable than a mainline A320, same as an Easyjet A319 will be much less comfortable than a mainline 737.

You are a complete and utter fanboy.

so are you tbf

SO WHAT? PLUS THIS IS YOUR ONLY POST!

its okay that you're so immature because 12 year olds aren't supposed to be mature

here at airline empires we are mature and capable of getting things done and definitely not in middle school 

There's no need to debate whether he's actually dead anymore, it doesn't really matter at all.

active AE admin

chuckled
 

How about y'all stop talking about who's the most immature and start talking about actually fixing the problems (the goal of this thread)

I agree AE should be back in development but you should NEVER lie about if someone is dead ! that is disgraceful and disgusting !

if this results in people from the community working to make AE better, than the ends definitely justify the means.

HEY! THAT'S 100% NOT TRUE! I DON'T HARRASS LEADERS!

You:

79% Making stupid airlines

20% Being a idiot on the forums

1% doing something actually useful

 

NOT TRUE

You:

67% Making spamlines

33% Being a giant piece of poop

 

 

HEY YOU IDIOT! so untrue! i thought we were friends!

what the hell lmao

I actually am mature.

SO WHAT? PLUS THIS IS YOUR ONLY POST!

HEY! you IDIOT!

Well,

Ya so? Look at what age NNR and KJS607 started AE at.

 

YA SO? Most AE players are UNDER 25, many are UNDER 16 and some are even UNDER 11 like spinkid's pupils (check the forum: http://www.airline-e...e-2#entry244338)

do you fall into that under 11 category as well

Can't do 787. British Airways used to fly twice daily into Philadelphia. Once with a 777 and the other with a 787. But recently British Airways closed one of those flights so it could be operated by a 747-400

Surely AA 787s appear sometimes

From biggest to smallest:

A340-600 (JFK-JNB-JFK on SA)

A330-300 (CLT-LGW-CLT on US)

B767-200 (IAD-GVA-IAD on UA)

B757-200 (PHX-KOA-PHX on US)

A321 (so many times on US/AA post merger)

A320 (so many times on US/AA post merger)

B737-800 (a few times on AA post merger, once on DL on ANC-SEA, also once on JNB-LLW-JNB on SA)

A319 (a few times on US/AA)

E190/E195 (once or twice on US/AA)

CRJ900 (a few times on us airways/american express)

E170-175 (a few times on us airways/american express)

CRJ200 (a few times on us airways/american express)

DHC-8-200 (CLT-EWN-CLT on US airways express)