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So are we planning on adding this in AE4 or can we possibly make it its own "small" big update (AE3.3?). This is something I want and everyone else want pushed, maybe to the front. As I see it, if the Dev team (I might be able to help, if you need some) could try to work only on this update and see if they can push it out. I hate to want to model Minecraft here, but they're pretty good at pushing small things when people want it.


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YES! Actual connecting flights would be amazing! I think other fees such as baggage should be added and a fourth class (flex economy or something). I don't know what the correct terminology is, but some airlines will have a flight that stops and refuels somewhere (in home country) but all the passengers stay on the plane. Flights like this would obviosly have to be less expensive than direct flights but it would allow an aircraft to fly from Houston KIAH to Tokyo RJAA via KLAX. Maybe so the feature is not abused the connecting city would have to be a hub??


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So are we planning on adding this in AE4 or can we possibly make it its own "small" big update (AE3.3?). This is something I want and everyone else want pushed, maybe to the front. As I see it, if the Dev team (I might be able to help, if you need some) could try to work only on this update and see if they can push it out. I hate to want to model Minecraft here, but they're pretty good at pushing small things when people want it.

I agree. Real connecting passengers is definitely the feature I want the most.


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True, sounds more complicated but its ore rational. Plus improves the gamplay of AE. It would be benificial for all as you dont have to fly two seprate routes but just one route with stopovers. Its complicated, but profitable.  



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First I want this to happen

Set two different prices for flights flown with normal aircrafts and flights with supersonics. Have two separate competitions. This will actually put Concorde into use, or no one is ever going to use them.

For example JFK-LHR on a Boeing 747 competes with the normal demand, charge normal prices. While the Concorde version of this route with compete with less demands, but charge a lot more.

 

Also technical stops should be added, so flights like Idaho Falls-PEK can be opened with a 737.

 

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For AE 4:

I'm thinking we should separate the concept of ticket sales and actual flights operated. Say if an airline operates ORD-LAX, ORD-JFK, and ORD-SFO, he can choose which tickets to sell (LAX-JFK via ORD, SFO-JFK via ORD, etc). Passengers wanting to fly LAX-JFK would choose among all possible itineraries (LAX-JFK nonstop, LAX-ORD-JFK, etc) instead of actual flights.

This system has several advantages:

1) It easily facilitates a realistic connecting passenger model. Currently all demand is O&D, and connecting pax are generated based on hub traffic. Under the proposed system, the connecting pax would be real pax taking costs and flight times into account. Airlines flying LAX-DFW-JFK would compete for LAX-JFK passengers as well.

2) It allows for more flexible routings and stopovers. For example, if an aircraft doesn't have enough range to fly DFW-PVG, you can fly DFW-NRT and NRT-PVG and only sell tickets on DFW-PVG.

This sounds like a lot more micromanagement, but you would be able to choose default "rules" for new routes - sell tickets corresponding to flights only (no connecting pax), sell tickets on all possible itineraries (within timetable constraints), etc.

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Yes I love this idea. It basically allows refuling stops, which I really want. Currently, you can sort of do this by making two flights, but that's only if the stopover is in your country. I think that this Is a perfect idea.


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This thread started in 2012.. Was kinda funny that I had the same Idea before I read this thread.. Though it is almost 5 years since upcoming, I would go off in the moment this is added to AE :rock:



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I would say have an option to do this. You can do the current system, or you can do the one you suggested.

Maybe, like a tab on the routes page?

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I would say have an option to do this. You can do the current system, or you can do the one you suggested.

Maybe, like a tab on the routes page?

obviously. 



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I highly support having these features coming out in a small update for our current version of AE. In my opinion, trying to release a completely new version of AE from the ground-up will not happen realistically and would likely be nonfunctional for many months after its release, purely because of the number of errors it would have without any proven, stable base. I think that adding this feature onto the current version of AE would do away with the spamlines that rely on today's fake connecting pax & also allow for better trouble-shooting for this individual feature afterwards, so that when AE 4 actually came out, all of its modular parts would be operational and built upon the already-stable base of AE we have today.



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So how long do we have to wait for the new update to roll out? Just curious :D

 

Also I like those ideas a lot can't wait for them to be implemented



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So how long do we have to wait for the new update to roll out? Just curious :D
 
Also I like those ideas a lot can't wait for them to be implemented


Erm, AE4... isn’t coming out anytime soon.





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