#41
Posted 18 July 2006 - 08:19 AM
#42
Posted 18 July 2006 - 08:39 AM
Reno - Go study Economics...
Stephen - Go *random insult* yourself...
*the classic oldie, but a goodie*
No but seriously, quit being a douche and make a relevant post. I think this topic should have been closed ages ago, oh well.....
*Supply and demand "was implemented" in the worst way I could ever see it. If I was one of these brokers, I would try the classic "value + *a percentage*" what happened was more along the lines of "value + *RAPE*" oh well, the heat has mostly died down on this subject, though its morons like you who beat this crap to death*
Reno Express: 11676
:airplane
Current Fleet
3 X B1900D
#1 At Reno/Tahoe International Airport
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#43
Posted 18 July 2006 - 12:15 PM
AID: 7106
Numero Uno en San Francisco, Las Vegas, y ahora Los Angeles!
#44
Posted 18 July 2006 - 03:11 PM
#45
Posted 18 July 2006 - 03:23 PM
#46
Posted 18 July 2006 - 04:50 PM
yo apparently u never learned about true capitalism. the little guy always gets crushed under the iron fist of the bigger ones. it's economical darwinism. you happen to be the weaker link
Yep.
stop moaning. This is airline empires not airline charities
Be quiet
Yeah Reno...sorry to kinda come in on this...but just let them be. You can source your aircraft elsewhere.
True, but a few people are just so nice, good sources... Oh well.
Lets just lock this damn topic, since its turning into "lets flame the guy with with an honest opinion about what happened" , holy crap, thats exactly what happened.
Reno Express: 11676
:airplane
Current Fleet
3 X B1900D
#1 At Reno/Tahoe International Airport
http://www.renoexpressva.com
#47
Posted 18 July 2006 - 07:13 PM
AID: 7106
Numero Uno en San Francisco, Las Vegas, y ahora Los Angeles!
#48
Posted 18 July 2006 - 08:44 PM
An honest opinion can still be an inaccurate one (disclaimer: I'm not keeping this alive because I want to flame you, I just like to flesh out a good argument). You say it is unwise for brokers to try to find the market's equilibrium. You didn't use those exact words. However, the brokers don't sell for you to get cheap prices on planes; they sell to make a profit. The equilibrium price will be the one where their supply intersects with the demand. If there is enough demand to turn a greater profit by raising prices, then that is the wisest thing for them to do. If there is not, then you will see the sellers lower their prices as soon as they realize they are no longer making as good a profit. Economics isn't a rule that sellers and buyers abide by, but the natural way the market works. If the seller charges higher than equilibrium, the seller will suffer because the buyer will not buy. If he charges lower than equilibrium, again he will suffer because he will run out of supply to meet the demand for his product. So let the sellers sell for whatever price they see fit, and use your cash to cast your vote hence or thence.
Smartest thing I read all day.
That aint flaming because you made your point clear instead of the other morons here posting "Go study Economics" or "go learn about supply and demand" thats really assinine. Like I said before, the hike is what really got me off balence, I was able to purchase an aircraft a day, and the sellers seemed to make enough profit. The good news is that other people are trying to bring back the stable market.
Reno Express: 11676
:airplane
Current Fleet
3 X B1900D
#1 At Reno/Tahoe International Airport
http://www.renoexpressva.com
#49
Posted 18 July 2006 - 09:42 PM
Steve
id #12388
3X Airbus A320-200
1X Airbus A321-200
1X Boeing 737-700
4X Boeing 737-900
3X BAE Systems J-31
44X Bombardier Q400
1X Embraer EMB 190 LR
19X Saab 2000
2X ATR ATR-42-500
1X ATR ATR-72-500
5X Raytheon Beech 1900D
#50
Posted 19 July 2006 - 02:29 AM
#51
Posted 19 July 2006 - 03:24 AM
#52
Posted 19 July 2006 - 03:29 AM
Steve
id #12388
3X Airbus A320-200
1X Airbus A321-200
1X Boeing 737-700
4X Boeing 737-900
3X BAE Systems J-31
44X Bombardier Q400
1X Embraer EMB 190 LR
19X Saab 2000
2X ATR ATR-42-500
1X ATR ATR-72-500
5X Raytheon Beech 1900D
#53
Posted 19 July 2006 - 04:44 AM
That is an interesting comment Airbigos perhaps when you exceed a certain amount of frames ordered you get 4 instead of 2 or something along those lines. Or perhaps a leasing set up of some sort.
Steve
Sounds good in theory, but I can see people abusing the system, you'd really have to order a lot to get the bonus. The Leasing thing is a great idea, I hope someone can come up with a way to do it for V3.
#54
Posted 19 July 2006 - 03:34 PM
There could also be different prices for how long you want to lease the aircraft for. Something like 1 million per month for a year and 750,000 per month for 3 years.
Anyone get this idea?
#55
Posted 20 July 2006 - 01:41 AM
#56
Posted 20 July 2006 - 02:34 AM
I agree with leasing...just keep the prices low for small props, and high for the big widebodies.
mm I'd like to see the free market economy used, you shouldn't be dictating a cap on prices, but naturally you would expect lower prices for props and higher for widebodies.
#57
Posted 20 July 2006 - 10:40 AM
#58
Posted 21 July 2006 - 02:42 AM
What I was going with is if you are broker, then you can't operate any routes, and vice versa, as long as you operate routes you can't get the bonus deliveries as broker would. Still can play in the used market thou.
#59
Posted 21 July 2006 - 05:20 PM
I buy planes from by broker who offers me them cheap and then sell them for cheaper than the competition on the market.
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