Might be the same idiot who messed with engines in R0.

(S4C) Sandbox World - No Political Restrictions (5 min / day)

 

2 ZA

 

390 1,238 6 3,974 1,226,746 9,766,344

$200,631,492,241

 

That's really interesting. The game has safeguards to prevent ordering aircraft that aren't yet available... at least, it doesn't seem to be possible in the same way that adding different engines is possible.

How strange.

I wonder if Yuxi will read this thread before banning me when he sees all the illegal nonsense I've been up to. It's purely academic, I promise.

Also note that in a world that is in 2008 they already have the A320neo...    

Now that is odd. Which world/airline is this?

Oh, the irony.

I really can't overstate just how little your opinion means to me.

It seems this person did more than I thought. I'm going through my planes and finding many of them have very wrong engines. Tu-114s with PT-6s for example. Not cool. Cheaters suck.

No, that makes sense. The base MX cost of an aircraft is 5% of the retail price.

More precisely, it's 5% of the average purchase price across all aircraft in that family that you own.

It's $75 per flight for the mobile coverage and $13 per meal.

The fly-in breakfast at the local airport this year will be a real treat in my new Bonanza. Lmao.

Okay I'm done screwing around now. Time to forget the forbidden knowledge.

Oh wow, and a bunch if Il-14s of various flavours with PT-6s too. That's so funny. Scrapped!

Ha! Sure enough, in R0, there are also a bunch of VC.1 Vikings for sale with PT-6As.

I was scrolling earlier, saw the PT-6 model and thought "What? PT-6? On a plane that old? Huh." and then went about my day.

Turns out it was indeed the same person who modded the 707s. What a coincidence. I'll buy them all and scrap them.

...How? What??

The base maintenance cost is 5% of the average aircraft price in that family that you own. So within that family (727, A320, etc) if you have 20 planes priced at $100,000,000 and 20 priced at $120,000,000, your base MX cost would be 5% of $110,000,000 or $5,500,000.

Ongoing maintenance costs are a little more opaque, but per month they are approximately 0.3% of the purchase price of the aircraft times 0.0048 ·A² + 0.002 ·A + 1, where A is the age of the aircraft in years to one decimal place. This means that aircraft maintenance costs increase quadratically with age, so while maintenance costs between a 2 and 3 year old aircraft won't be extreme, a 25 vs 26 year old aircraft can have a big gap in ongoing costs.

Website has been acting up for about a year now with performance slowly degrading. I submitted a bug to the issue tracker with no response -- the game is unplayable for me when I have more than 400 or so aircraft on screen at once. UI elements just stop working.

Not sure if this is a Chrome issue but the game pretty much soft-locks for me after a while. 4-5 minutes to load a single page.

It takes multiple attempts to post on the forums.

In the grand scheme of things, the difference between leasing and buying isn't significant. It's not difficult to make an aircraft profitable.

However, a fleet of 1000 planes making 10% margins vs 30% margins...

If you buy a plane for $100,000,000, you trade $100,000,000 in cash for an asset worth $100,000,000. That asset depreciates, so you must make back enough cash each year to compensate for the depreciation of the aircraft to "break even" in terms of overall valuation.

By leasing instead of buying, you only have to earn back the lease cost per month to "break even". If the cost of the lease is less than the amount by which the aircraft depreciates, you end up making more money overall. 

Nah. I would if I could do it in bulk, but one at a time? Not worth it.

Any interaction between multiple player-owned airlines is a violation of the rules.

The trick is to abuse game mechanics, but that's a pretty cheese way of playing the game. I do it because I like the optimization challenge and deep-diving into the numbers of the game.

If you want to run a regular airline (like most people) then a 10-15% margin is perfectly reasonable.

Looking at the first graph, do I understand correctly that if the depreciation rate of an aircraft is equal or less than 4.5%, it will be cheaper to buy it than to lease it even without a discount? For example, I buy an aircraft in a used market, or I order just one new from the factory.

That is correct. Below 4.5%(ish) the discount is negative, so you pay more than retail price by leasing. 

That can happen when you operate a spam line.

Money printer goes brrrrrrr

Yep.

Gate leasing fees, in dollars, are 1% of the annual passengers through that airport. When you build terminals, the fee structure is much more complicated; you get a discount the more gates you build.

Money printer go brrrrrr

While I would tend to agree, this is far more than luck. Aircraft are consistently sold within only a few months of delivery, and always purchased by China Eastern. This is deliberate.