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Viero

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In Topic: Real-World Passenger Demand Coming to AE

06 April 2021 - 05:31 PM

This is a really amazing feat. 

 

Is the data based on O&D traffic or segment traffic? 

Segment traffic, mostly. I'll be happy to share more of my process once I finish updating the last of the main traffic data - within the month or so.


In Topic: Real-World Passenger Demand Coming to AE

05 April 2021 - 08:52 AM

Ah I see. You know, if the team have hard time finding information regarding the demand for Q1 of 2020. It's okay to use data from 2018 or 2019, just a suggestion. 

 

There's some info here, hope this helps a little:
https://www.chinatra...hou and Chengdu.

https://www.oag.com/...f0-4f2a52d65940

That might be helpful but for the most part I have all the data I need. Now it's mostly a matter of formatting and uploading it in the game.

 

 

Both airports should have similar demand, because Guarulhos is indeed the busiest airport in the country, because it handles almost as much domestic traffic as Congonhas as well as 100% of São Paulo's international traffic. Congonhas, on the other hand, is for domestic traffic only. If Guarulhos was 1333 before the dip, Congonhas should be around 1200 to 1400 too

I'm using real-world values and in cases of multiple airports for a city it just depends on what gets more use. Some airlines that use CGH as a hub do not use GRU as a hub and vice-versa. Since CGH is exclusively a domestic airport some routes that CGH serves are not served by GRU, reflecting real world conditions.


In Topic: Real-World Passenger Demand Coming to AE

04 April 2021 - 03:27 PM

I came across something. According to some websites, Flights from Beijing to local airport in China (such as Shanghai-Hongqiao, Guangzhou or Chengdu rank in the top 30 most busiest routes in the world).

 

But looing at the demand in S4C. I found some inconsistent with the demand between some major Chinese routes.

 

For comparison, the demand for Beijing - Shanghai-Hongqiao (7th busiest routes in the world) is 1431 pax per day.

 

But demand for Hong Kong - Taipei (8th busiest routes in the world) is 7830 pax per day.

and demand for Tokyo Haneda - Naha (9th busiest routes in the world) is 7458 pax per day.

 

Same thing happen to other routes from Shanghai-Hongqiao airport. So this is not exclusive to Beijing airport.

China is one of the last locales we're working on, like I mentioned. Most of the world has the proper data for it at this point, but Chinese domestic routes are still in progress.

 

A get that real worl demand is much more dynamic, but i still find it hard to believe one of the densest (if not THE densest) route in Brazil would have a dip in demand from 1333 to 447 just overnight, while all other routes remained the same. This route links Brasilia and SAO PAULO, Brazil's largest city. It was the only route that had this happening. Heck even smaller cities further inland showed similar or greater demand than this one after the "bug"

This only happened with this particular route, all the others remained steady.

If I were to guess, that's because most demand is filled at Congonhas Airport (CGH) instead of Guarulhos (GRU). That might be what you're looking at.

 

In any case though, we made it a goal not to reduce demand on any routes - just increasing any that need it. If the route really did have a dip, especially one that big, we'll sort it out.


In Topic: Real-World Passenger Demand Coming to AE

04 April 2021 - 03:25 PM

I came across something. According to some websites, Flights from Beijing to local airport in China (such as Shanghai-Hongqiao, Guangzhou or Chengdu rank in the top 30 most busiest routes in the world).

 

But looing at the demand in S4C. I found some inconsistent with the demand between some major Chinese routes.

 

For comparison, the demand for Beijing - Shanghai-Hongqiao (7th busiest routes in the world) is 1431 pax per day.

 

But demand for Hong Kong - Taipei (8th busiest routes in the world) is 7830 pax per day.

and demand for Tokyo Haneda - Naha (9th busiest routes in the world) is 7458 pax per day.

 

Same thing happen to other routes from Shanghai-Hongqiao airport. So this is not exclusive to Beijing airport.

China is one of the last locales we're working on, like I mentioned. Most of the world has the proper data for it at this point, but Chinese domestic routes are still in progress.


In Topic: Real-World Passenger Demand Coming to AE

02 April 2021 - 07:40 PM

Despite the date, I'm happy to say this is very much real. I've been working diligently on collecting and upgrading the data for the game over the past year, and we're just about ready to roll it out. I'll be happy to share more information on my work very soon.