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[travelhouse]

There will be an upcoming connected flight system, rules:

• One specific aircraft can only start one one-way trip out of a specific airport
• All flights must be connected together

The first case will be prevented by the route-creation-page automatically, in the second case the aircraft will be grounded until all flights are connected again.

Few examples.

Rule 1 - valid:

• Roundtrip LHR - FRA - LHR
• One-way LHR - DUB
• Roundtrip FRA - MUC

Rule 1 - invalid constellation (will be prevented by the system, if current flights breaking the rule, the aircraft will be grounded):

• Roundtrip LHR - FRA - LHR
• One-way LHR - DUB
• One-way LHR - GLA

Only one one-way out of LHR is allowed.

Rule 2 valid:

• Roundtrip LHR - FRA
• Roundtrip FRA - ZRH
• One-Way ZRH - MXP
• One-Way MXP - FCO

Note: On every second day the one-ways will be reverted, so the a/c flights first back from FCO to MXP, then from MXP to ZRH and then it will go on the round trips - so two one-ways are not a problem.

Rule 2 - invalid:

• Roundtrip LHR - FRA
• One-Way ZRH - MXP
• One-Way MXP - FCO

There is no connection between FRA and ZRH, when creating routes in a batch you can not generate such a pattern. But in the current mode you can create a network as in the valid example and thereafter delete the FRA-ZRH flight and you get the network mentioned in the invalid example, but the aircraft is still working.

In the new mode: When deleting a flight and getting a "not connected" network for an aircraft, the aircraft will be grounded and generates no profit.

If one was not confused before, well Iam sure am now:puzzled:, sorry, but Tobias, how about a simple explained way to do this, or better still you go ahead and do it, I will play the game and the system will tell me what I can and can not do.

Till I can work this out I will just play along.

[Glennos]

So until this is implemented we can do whatever the system let's us do , correct?

Just want to know so I have carte blanche to do multiple one ways on one route?

[Pacific]

If one was not confused before, well Iam sure am now:puzzled:, sorry, but Tobias, how about a simple explained way to do this, or better still you go ahead and do it, I will play the game and the system will tell me what I can and can not do.

Till I can work this out I will just play along.

Dear Travelhouse, don't be worried. I understand his idea completely (because it's already implemented in another game). Simply said, it should theoretically kill any form of "teleportation".

Again, from my understanding we seem to have two issues here.
1. Teleportation (work in progress).
2. Server crashing from complex autoprice calculations (nothing seems to be done here).

[travelhouse]

Dear Travelhouse, don't be worried. I understand his idea completely (because it's already implemented in another game). Simply said, it should theoretically kill any form of "teleportation".

Again, from my understanding we seem to have two issues here.
1. Teleportation (work in progress).
2. Server crashing from complex autoprice calculations (nothing seems to be done here).

http://en.wikipedia....i/Teleportation

Now, its my colour of my hair thats stuffed up, Blonde dosnt suit me, I am off here to get a colour change, them I may be able to work it out.

[travelhouse]

So until this is implemented we can do whatever the system let's us do , correct?

Just want to know so I have carte blanche to do multiple one ways on one route?

No answers, well I am about to BETA test and then give Tobias the link to the route I will MASS onto, just to prove a point, I have selected a route thats got little on it right now, but I will show WHY we need to address this One-Way issue 1st hand to Tobias.

Those on the route, sorry but need to prove my point.

BTW, changed from Blonde to ginger and bugger me still cant make head or tails of this who new one-ways.

[lurch]

I will repost my comment once i correct the errors.
Before I do, I need a few questions answered.
Are we assuming that an A/C makes the round trip back the minute that they reach the the destination. For Example, I will use

• Roundtrip LHR - FRA - LHR
• One-way LHR - DUB
• Roundtrip FRA - MUC - FRA

If the A/C returns right away, this example can't be done. If it just has to make the round trip eventually then it can be done.
LHR-FRA,FRA-MUC-FRA,FRA-LHR,LHR-DUB
I color coated the routes to try and make it easier.

[Mdlewry]

Also, I Have A Question. I Did A One Way LAX - LGA Through Airport Hopping. I Will Show The Example:

LAX - TUS
TUS- AUS
AUS BHM
BHM - RDU
RDU - LGA

Is This Ok, Or Shouldn't I Have Done This?

[Maestro69]

Mdlewry, that is fine. I think that is what we all want, that one-ways actually have a pattern where they either u started of a point of origin and return e.g. CDG-FRA-MUC-VCE-MXP-NCE-CDG or as u suggest, flying like a zig-zag line across the US continent, flying through certain airports.

[lurch]

Deleted my comment, already explained

[Elchie]

@Mdlewry: Thats a one-way-pattern at its best

@lurch: Mention: Order doesn't matter right know in the system (we have no schedule at this time), so the flights should be connected together somehow, my order was just a list and doesn't affect the system in any way. So the example is valid, the order of routes doesn't matter.

[travelhouse]

@Mdlewry: Thats a one-way-pattern at its best

(OK, now I understand, so in other words if I start at XYZ then it can end up finishing at any location, however I can NOT brake that journey by closing any route or in future the aircraft will be grounded)

(But, it is just me, but how can you start out at XYZ and finish up the other end of the earth :puzzled: the aircraft has to get back to it original departure point to continue it next flight.....thats what I cant understand)

@lurch: Mention: Order doesn't matter right know in the system (we have no schedule at this time), so the flights should be connected together somehow, my order was just a list and doesn't affect the system in any way. So the example is valid, the order of routes doesn't matter.

(Right, so you are more or less saying I can take an A380 from: LHR to HND (One Way) then add any other flight from either LHR or HND either one-way or return? Just as long I keep the loop connected.)

Then Tobias, my point and I would like you to look at my mass of aircraft from:

MAD to HND.

My other alliance member (Mike from Canada) is away so I am looking after his airline from my place here in the UK, and I massed just a few from:

HND - BCN

The more I place on it, the more revenue they all make, this is what Glennos and I plus others (Not sure who else agrees) is trying to stop, but its your game, we are just players, just wish from the years we have been playing this we would halt some of the unfair advantage being played out in this game.

[Elchie]

(But, it is just me, but how can you start out at XYZ and finish up the other end of the earth the aircraft has to get back to it original departure point to continue it next flight.....thats what I cant understand)

First that was also my thought, but be flexible. Just a example pattern:

LHR - FRA- FCO - ATH - DXB

These flights are all one ways - so how will the plane get back from DXB to LHR? In this case go away from "it will fly the routes in this order and this direction"-thing. Just imagine: The a/c will be over night in DXB and on the second day all routes will be flewn in the vice versa direction.

So with the mentioned pattern a week for the a/c will look like:

Day 1: LHR-FRA-FCO-ATH-DXB -> Stay in DXB over night
Day 2: DXB-ATH-FCO-FRA-LHR -> Stay in LHR over night
Day 3: LHR-FRA-FCO-ATH-DXB -> Stay in DXB over night
Day 4: DXB-ATH-FCO-FRA-LHR -> Stay in LHR over night
Day 5: LHR-FRA-FCO-ATH-DXB -> Stay in DXB over night
Day 6: DXB-ATH-FCO-FRA-LHR -> Stay in LHR over night
Day 7: LHR-FRA-FCO-ATH-DXB -> Stay in DXB over night
...

In the current system there is now difference in load factors/prices related to the direction. It doesn't matter if you plan a one-way LHR-FRA or FRA-LHR - you will get the same profit. Having this in mind, the "swap direction"-rule for one-way-patterns on every second day is applicable

[Mdlewry]

Basically, In The Game, I Bought A Beech 1900D To Keep My Gate at LAX Until I Could Use It, & used a few routes (That ended Back At LAX) So That i could keep the Gate At LAX. I Then Realised if i use up the time, i make more money, So I opened a one way LAX - LGA Through Airport Hopping, With No Intention of it Flying Back to LAX, Until the direction swap.