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[Chandler Keith Henson]

Spam lines are probably the most annoying thing about the game

 

You have airlines that provide more seats than the daily demand, sometimes it unintentional or not, some want a monopoly, some may have started that way and later had competition and larger planes and didn't want a market untouched. what makes it even worse is when they do this AND lower ticket prices to just extremely low levels

 

my thought on ending it (at least in some worlds)

 

1. Set a MINIMUM ticket price for each world, setting anything less than that ticket price will give a notice and set it to the minimum

2. If there are more seats than demand on the market, then any airline at the minimum price will have seats divided up between them evenly

 

example if minimum ticket price is $50 and 300 seats daily demand with 3 airlines each with 400+ seats/day, and say each airline has ticket prices at $50, then each airline can get no more than 100 seats/day as they can't lower prices any further

 

this discourages airlines from just overproviding to monopolize a market and makes them have to think more about route planning

 

obviously it should apply mostly to economy, I do think we should make business class and first class care more about IFS (so if IFS is equal then this applies, otherwise the airline with better F or C IFS gets more passengers). 

what do you think? any other thoughts/ideas or changes to this idea?

[Chandler Keith Henson]

my thought on ending it (at least in some worlds)

i did say at least in some worlds, the concept could be tested in a special world, or maybe even only used in a special world.

[rotaryspd]

This could be done with much less intrusive game rules.  First and foremost, only using O&D pax to calculate the blue pax.  That would be just a tiny tweak to game rules rather than adding new mechanics.

[Whatever]

Ever tried going to airports with fewer than 20mil annual pax?

[Jamesthomeson]

Anyone who charges 50$ on a route that started at 300$ shouldn't make any profit whatsoever. No matter how scammy your IFS is, you shouldn't make any profit because no one, and I mean no one is going to pay 75$ for some unseasoned meatballs on a 2 hour flight, especially when the ticket cost less. And nor will anyone pay 30$ to watch a bunch of adds on the seatback of a 707 in the year 2010.

[zortan]

Anyone who charges 50$ on a route that started at 300$ shouldn't make any profit whatsoever. No matter how scammy your IFS is, you shouldn't make any profit because no one, and I mean no one is going to pay 75$ for some unseasoned meatballs on a 2 hour flight, especially when the ticket cost less. And nor will anyone pay 30$ to watch a bunch of adds on the seatback of a 707 in the year 2010.

exactly lol

[zortan]

Anyone who charges 50$ on a route that started at 300$ shouldn't make any profit whatsoever. No matter how scammy your IFS is, you shouldn't make any profit because no one, and I mean no one is going to pay 75$ for some unseasoned meatballs on a 2 hour flight, especially when the ticket cost less. And nor will anyone pay 30$ to watch a bunch of adds on the seatback of a 707 in the year 2010.

except that it wouldn't be on the setback of the 707. It would be one TV in the aisle for every 100 seats, that is really fuzzy and breaks halfway through the flight.

[Jamesthomeson]

except that it wouldn't be on the setback of the 707. It would be one TV in the aisle for every 100 seats, that is really fuzzy and breaks halfway through the flight.

I'm having to much fun imagining this.

[Pasti]

This would just complicate things for normal airlines as well, since it would devastate realistic low cost carriers and those in a price war.

 

Spamlines are just a playing style that the game allows. The only way to make them go down is to be a bigger spamline, which could nab you a trophy as well.

 

Yuxi already has enough stuff on his hands. Making unnecessary suggestions that makes both sides unhappy just adds to it.

[Ryan_D96]

I have to take issue with the minimum pricing. Ryanair offers flights from as little as £2.50 from my local airport, so it does happen in real life

[Marb1]

Anyone who charges 50$ on a route that started at 300$ shouldn't make any profit whatsoever. No matter how scammy your IFS is, you shouldn't make any profit because no one, and I mean no one is going to pay 75$ for some unseasoned meatballs on a 2 hour flight, especially when the ticket cost less. And nor will anyone pay 30$ to watch a bunch of adds on the seatback of a 707 in the year 2010.

+1

[zortan]

I'm having to much fun imagining this.

me too

[KINGXyro]

Spam lines are probably the most annoying thing about the game

 

You are absolutely right on this one.

 

2. If there are more seats than demand on the market, then any airline at the minimum price will have seats divided up between them evenly

 

This shouldn't be implemented. I entered a route with heavy competition dominated by spam liners they we're all price at $1900 I entered the route priced at $2100 and guess what I still ended up having %100 passenger load. From the passengers perspective it was worth paying the $2100 for the services I provided them which was like %75 better than the spam liners.

 

obviously it should apply mostly to economy, I do think we should make business class and first class care more about IFS (so if IFS is equal then this applies, otherwise the airline with better F or C IFS gets more passengers).

 

They already do care! It varies on the route. I put my 3-star rating IFS to my domestic routes and is ending up with "Green Rating" now if I put the same IFS to long-haul routes for example MNL-JFK it would most likely show up on the Red-Yellow region.

 

Passenger standards varies from place to place.

[Ryan_D96]

They already do care! It varies on the route. I put my 3-star rating IFS to my domestic routes and is ending up with "Green Rating" now if I put the same IFS to long-haul routes for example MNL-JFK it would most likely show up on the Red-Yellow region.

 

Passenger standards varies from place to place.

 

It actually doesn't. IFS rating will remain the same no matter the distance of the flight  

If your IFS rating is dropping on long haul it will be due different IFE combining with the IFS. If you are talking about overall route rating then it is likely other factors at play, frequency of flights would be my guess

[KINGXyro]

It actually doesn't. IFS rating will remain the same no matter the distance of the flight

If your IFS rating is dropping on long haul it will be due different IFE combining with the IFS. If you are talking about overall route rating then it is likely other factors at play, frequency of flights would be my guess

 

I only have one IFE configuration because I only use one type of aircraft on domestic and international destinations. Name it Boeing 787.

[Ryan_D96]

I only have one IFE configuration because I only use one type of aircraft on domestic and international destinations. Name it Boeing 787.

 

So the reason for your reputation drop over a longer distance has to be due to something else. 

 

Both of the flights below have 3 star IFS and 5 star IFE yet both have the same IFS economy rating

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[KINGXyro]

Lol then they do really need to fix that

[Ryan_D96]

Lol then they do really need to fix that

 

I doubt anything will be happening to AE for the foreseeable future

[zortan]

I doubt anything will be happening to AE for the foreseeable future

unfortunately.