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[Stevphfeniey]

So before you attack liberals, remember what pays your wages.

If Adam is like 15, then the answer to that question is mommy and daddy.

[Stevphfeniey]

Democrats routinely reference other countries who deprived their citizens of that God-given right as "success story", but I would urge those filthy liberals to lookat the homicide rates after gun bans in Britain, Chicago, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Mao's China, Honduras, and Australia (violent crimes BESIDES homicides for this country).

 

Again with the violating Godwin's Law. Do you enjoy losing arguments?

[TNT88]

All we need to do now is forced the rich to actually pay taxes. Those offshore money would worth at least 50% of the US debts in 20 years.

[Adam.Bomb]

I am almost 18 stev and have held a job for longer than you have most likely. 

[Adam.Bomb]

Also Those countries you list are nothing without their somewhat conservative ideals. If youa ctually READ STUFF maybe you would see the real reason they are so poor has nothing to do with their ideology, In fact it was liberty hating European countries that left most of those countries for RUIN. When I talk conservationism I mean the American-exclusive brand of it that when you see implemented in other countries DOES GREAT. Also Stev I stand to reason that history should not be repeated I don't give to s***s about Godwins law. 

[SirMoo]

Again with the violating Godwin's Law. Do you enjoy losing arguments?

I mean, I don't think it's Godwin's law comparing Trump to Hitler in that he is doing the exact same political plan as Hitler is.

Blame Immigrants of the non-majority of ruining the economy? Check

Create racial threats against Immigrants of a religious minority? Check

Threaten national lists and racial and immigrant monitoring? Check

Blame Socialists/Communists for destroying the economy with the Immigrants? Check

 

Those four points were sort of the foundation of Hiterlism when he was running. National pride was a big one, that being said... US already has that at Nazi Germany levels so...

 

 

When I talk conservationism I mean the American-exclusive brand of it that when you see implemented in other countries DOES GREAT.

 

No it doesn't. Conservative nations end up just killing everyone as they tend to be conservative socially.

 

You don't actually know what Liberty is. Most conservative states curtail liberty more than a liberal state in the Union. I'm happy to may more in tax to have more liberty.

 

Conservatives in America are blinded by Tea Party propaganda that implies if you have to pay the government then you're anti-American. When infact it's rather the opposite. Americanism is founded on the concept that the government protects you and the states regulate you on minor issues. The states have been failing on that pretty dramatically.

 

You can't have liberty when the states deprive you. The job of the Federal Government, in the sense of liberty, is to not deprive you and prevent the states from doing that. Welfare is an aspect of this. I think most Americans agree that welfare should not be a carte blanc check from the government for money. Thus in most states, if I believe, you get food stamps that can only be used on food. You also get medical care for your children, as well as other health and wellness assistance. This, at it's core is liberty. 

 

Rightwing Libertarianism is not Libertarianism. It's Anti-Federalism. It's Anti-American at it's core. It's not proper Libertarianism. Maybe if you read an article about a more pure, unadulterated Libertarianism you'd see that Liberalism is more Libertarian than US Conservatism.

[Stevphfeniey]

It sounds like he doesn't want government. Libertarians should just move to space where technically there can be no government, see how much rugged individualism before cooperation works out there.

[SirMoo]

 Libertarians should just move to space where technically there can be no government, see how much rugged individualism before cooperation works out there.

Somalia?

[TNT88]

Also Those countries you list are nothing without their somewhat conservative ideals. If youa ctually READ STUFF maybe you would see the real reason they are so poor has nothing to do with their ideology, In fact it was liberty hating European countries that left most of those countries for RUIN. When I talk conservationism I mean the American-exclusive brand of it that when you see implemented in other countries DOES GREAT. Also Stev I stand to reason that history should not be repeated I don't give to s***s about Godwins law. 

Oh yeah, because American conservatism is Really different from conservatism in Africa or Asia..... NOT!

 

1. Most Asian and African countries are extremely RELIGIOUS.

2. Most of them are Conservatives in terms of Sex, Marriage or Social Policy.

3. Most of them are Poor. Sure some of them might have higher GDP (Indonesia or Egypt) But majority of the population are POOR, 80% of the wealth goes to the 20% of the population. Mind you, I lived in one of those country kiddo, so I got more experience than you do.

4. I don't need to read stuff honey, I EXPERIENCED Life. The life that you don't know and don't care about. I know exactly the ****ed up thing these conservatives do. I know their s*** cause it affected me (Chinese genocide in Indonesia, Hello!). I don't need your stupid book because those words mean 0 to people who have life experience.

 

5. And who do you think racked up the most blood in their hand here? The liberals who prefer human right or the religious Bigots who uses Islam or Christianity to kill their own people. Oh wait, you know the answers already.

 

6. Tell this to all your COnservatives american "friends". You better wish people in other countries are Liberal. Because if they did the thing that you people do. You won't stand a chance. 

[Stevphfeniey]

And you know if you plot out DNC policy positions on a political compass, they coincide with most European conservative parties (The Tories in the UK, the Christian Democrats in Germany, les Republicans in France). This puts the GOP even further to the right of that.

Look at your party's race for president, it's literally a circus of racists, bigots and old rich white dudes running Reagan's name through the mud to justify their outrageous policy positions. Fiscal conservatism isn't that bad an idea, but it's paired with insane ideals about what American society should be.

America is the example that the world follows, and right now we're being laughed at because we have the potential to have the Democratic nominee run against a racist Oompa Loompa (not that the other candidates are much better).

[Adam.Bomb]

Stev I don't think you know what I believe, maybe you should go look at my political compass quiz to figure that out. Also I feel the same way about BOTH fields of presidential candidates on BOTH sides, this political system has truly let us down. Now I will cover how to fix the system and how to RESTORE the American republic in another thread. (coming later) Called the liberty amendments. Now if you all leave your ears open to what I have to say I am sure you will like most of my proposals. Also you guys seem to avoid the core of my arguments. You venture into other realms. Everyone knows many third world countries hold conservative ideals. I won't argue soviet Russia's influence on sub-Saharan Africa and Western Africa in this thread due to the mere wish of keeping it remotely on topic. But even still the core of my beliefs is FRUGALITY stop bringing people I obviously do not support (that claim the conservative name) to attack me. On many of these threads I have seem to have WON these arguments, I told you about the now almost UNIVERSALLY affirmed critique of the fiscal implications of a Bernie presidency. No one responded. Remember and I can make a song out of it Spain=s***, Italy=s***, Greece=s***, and France=s***. And overall the entire Euro-zone (besides two countries that the E.U bullies and mistreats U.K and Germany) IS ABSOLUTE s***. These countries along with Sweden in a few years will be and ARE the picture of failed LIBERALISM! If you want your policies get your ****ing unamerican s*** and take it to Europe, they will love your victim attitude there. They may even give you some speech code laws to protect your astronomically infantile minds, you would LOVE IT there. You are all stuck in the OLD WORLD why in the hell would you want to back to, tyrannical, bureaucratic, all controlling governments. You all are obviously ill informed about what it truly means to be an American! 

[TNT88]

What is it to be American? 18 year old Weeaboo with anime avatar who think he know about everything and then goes on rant about how he thinks his idea of Conservatism is way better for the US? Or how 18 year old Weeaboo trying to convince the world he won arguments on the internet without anybody acknowledging it?

 

"fiscal implications of a Bernie presidency"

 

On how he would ****ed up stupid conservatives who don't pay taxes who send all their money to switzerland or cayman islands?

Or how he would want to provide more education so there would be less stupid people like you?

Oh wait, or how he want to destroyed Conservatism? Which I loved!

[Adam.Bomb]

Even by cutting the military completely from the budget and taxing the top 10% at 100% of their income. Bernie Sanders plan would STILL add additional deficit spending ON TOP of what we already have. So you sir are resorting to personal attacks, but thats not even the worst thing. You are abundantly idiotic for supporting this Jewish maniac. 

[TNT88]

I would love to see those perfect calculation of yours. Come on, gave us numbers. In the mean time, let me show you some lovely Illuminati statistic (Yes, I'm an illuminati whore). Enjoy:

 

 

 

[zipp]

Here we observe a retard, in its natural habitat.

[TNT88]

Here we observe a retard, in its natural habitat.

With his bad hairdo of course. 

[Adam.Bomb]

Here we observe a retard, in its natural habitat.

 

With his bad hairdo of course. 

sound like you guys would be referring to Bernie Sanders. 

[Adam.Bomb]

[TNT88]

Still no PROOF or a Number, How surprising..... NOT!

[Stevphfeniey]

Wow a straight white conservative male who doesn't like feminism, social justice or Bernie Sanders? Who'd have thunk it?

I too can post videos from YouTube which 100% agree with and validate my political views. So intellectual.