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I was looking at the manufacturers orders...
2 guys have already ordered planes such an Emb-170 or a CRJ-70...
How some people have managed to order a 30M plane in such a short time?
Flying with a beech from LAX to CDG at 3000$ tickets? or maybe using the easy way?
makes me curious...
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 10:49 PM
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They sold an airplane (or two) then made a 50% downpayment on the aircraft. If you start with 5 mil and 2 aircraft valued over 5 mil, its not too difficult.
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 10:53 PM
ok... then... (5M cash) + let's say (6M x 2 planes) = 17M!
ok, you have money for the first payment.
But now, you don't have money (neither planes) to make the other 15M before tomorrow...
Am I right?
ok, you have money for the first payment.
But now, you don't have money (neither planes) to make the other 15M before tomorrow...
Am I right?
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 10:59 PM
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some have 4 beeches already too....
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:04 PM
@Nathaniel: 4 Beeches.... and a Q400 ordered!!!!
It's just so unfair!
It's just so unfair!
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by maurice
@Nathaniel: 4 Beeches.... and a Q400 ordered!!!!
It's just so unfair!
this really makes me suspicious, how do you this early in the game get 4 beeches.. and 1 q400 on order
a 19 mil plane and then 2 extra beeches??
this is Freedom Airways
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:12 PM
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It really isn't that hard, you don't to think of everything so negative. I paid $5,600,000 for one beech and I got really lucky to find one for 3.1 million which I don't know why somebody would sell that for so cheap. And the Dash8 I will be in debt once I recieve it, but I will make up that money quite quickly. You just have to sacrafice. 
Also people have bought $30 mil. planes, so they would have to have 15 mil., I only had to have like 8... It's part luck.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Freedom]
Also people have bought $30 mil. planes, so they would have to have 15 mil., I only had to have like 8... It's part luck.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Freedom]
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Freedom
It really isn't that hard, you don't to think of everything so negative. I paid $5,600,000 for one beech and I got really lucky to find one for 3.1 million which I don't know why somebody would sell that for so cheap. And the Dash8 I will be in debt once I recieve it, but I will make up that money quite quickly. You just have to sacrafice.
you start with 5 mil and you have to buy gates
with the beeches you are up to needing 17 mil for all planes combined.. impossible to get that.. ...
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:15 PM
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they got the 30 mil planes because they sold their beeches for money, so they have no fleet, you baught the beeches extra and the q400
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:17 PM
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No, think about it...
ok you have 2 beechs in the begining plus 5 mil, I mad about 250,000 daily with those 2 beechs, a couple hours, I see a beech for 3 mil, and one for 5, turn around and sell for 6.2 mil each.
Finances now:
5 mil + 4.4 mil on selling planes profit + earnings = 9.7 mil.
buys gates, = 9.5 mil total now
Buy 2 beech, now make 650,000 day
Few days go by, buy dash 8... now dead broke.
ok you have 2 beechs in the begining plus 5 mil, I mad about 250,000 daily with those 2 beechs, a couple hours, I see a beech for 3 mil, and one for 5, turn around and sell for 6.2 mil each.
Finances now:
5 mil + 4.4 mil on selling planes profit + earnings = 9.7 mil.
buys gates, = 9.5 mil total now
Buy 2 beech, now make 650,000 day
Few days go by, buy dash 8... now dead broke.
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:18 PM
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250K a day with 2 B1900s?!! I dont think so...
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:19 PM
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If you watch the used sales alot somebody will be desperate to sell and drop the price really cheap then you buy.
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Freedom
Buy 2 beech, now make 650,000 day
this is hard with 4 q400 ...
this is quite hard to do... kinda fishy ...
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:30 PM
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I'm going to report this to Miller and have this checked out....
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by AirCanada
250K a day with 2 B1900s?!! I dont think so...
Very possible. Three of my J-31's are making either 122, 127, or 130k. Just gotta find good routes!
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:31 PM
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I have 2 beeches and 1 Q100 in ordered and I got lucky to find one B1900 for $2.850.000.
Nicke!
Nicke!
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nicke
I have 2 beeches and 1 Q100 in ordered and I got lucky to find one B1900 for $2.850.000.
Nicke!
hmm.... coincidence its the cheapest you can do it or something else?
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Nathaniel]
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:32 PM
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Edit:
This is to nathaniels post up above ^^^
Don't be hatin' just because your not in first.
Original post:
I think you mean 4 B1900D, well yeah it is... I'm not based out of one airport, I found all the high density routes and just did those, if you look at my route map you can see.
CDG-LHR - 175,000 daily
SEA-YVR - 140,000 daily
SFO-SAC - 40,000 daily
SFO-LAX - 95,000 daily
LAX-SAN - 165,000 daily
Those are +/- a little but which totals out to about 615,000 daily. Think about it.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Freedom]
This is to nathaniels post up above ^^^
Don't be hatin' just because your not in first.
Original post:
I think you mean 4 B1900D, well yeah it is... I'm not based out of one airport, I found all the high density routes and just did those, if you look at my route map you can see.
CDG-LHR - 175,000 daily
SEA-YVR - 140,000 daily
SFO-SAC - 40,000 daily
SFO-LAX - 95,000 daily
LAX-SAN - 165,000 daily
Those are +/- a little but which totals out to about 615,000 daily. Think about it.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Freedom]
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Freedom
It really isn't that hard, you don't to think of everything so negative. I paid $5,600,000 for one beech and I got really lucky to find one for 3.1 million which I don't know why somebody would sell that for so cheap. And the Dash8 I will be in debt once I recieve it, but I will make up that money quite quickly. You just have to sacrafice.
Also people have bought $30 mil. planes, so they would have to have 15 mil., I only had to have like 8... It's part luck.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Freedom]
Um let me just start of by saying. No one is making more then $500k with 3 b1900sD. You can't tell me u bought two beaches at $8 million PLUS affored another $8 million. That is pure BS. I think Miller needs to look into this.
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