SIM2 - Four New Aircraft
#1
Posted 10 May 2009 - 01:19 AM
Antonov An-148
Tupolev Tu-334
Tu-204
Tu-154
All are "in production" and can be ordered directly from their respective manufacturers.
Thanks to Conor for researching most of the data.
#2
Posted 10 May 2009 - 05:33 AM
#3
Posted 12 May 2009 - 02:22 PM
It seems that you put it in mph instead of knots
Another thing is the Tu-204 operational cost.
The problem with the Tu is the operating costs, It is less efficient than the 757 and the worldwide support service lacks, compared to Boeing or Airbus, which means that the support infrastructure is bad. If the plane breaks down, you are stuck. It may take a few days before spare parts can be flown in.This will be very expensive because you got an idle plane and you will have to hire a last-minute replacement aircraft. If you thought last minute flights that suit your exact wishes where expensive, you try booking a last minute plane!
That should be penalized somehow in the game.
#4
Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:55 PM
#5
Posted 13 May 2009 - 11:13 PM
#6
Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:14 AM
Another thing is the Tu-204 operational cost.
The problem with the Tu is the operating costs, It is less efficient than the 757 and the worldwide support service lacks, compared to Boeing or Airbus, which means that the support infrastructure is bad. If the plane breaks down, you are stuck. It may take a few days before spare parts can be flown in.This will be very expensive because you got an idle plane and you will have to hire a last-minute replacement aircraft. If you thought last minute flights that suit your exact wishes where expensive, you try booking a last minute plane!
That should be penalized somehow in the game.
I think that's not actually something to consider for our game, because number and dispersion of units worldwide is nothing like reality for many planes. If a Tupolev plane was very popular with players, then in our "world," spares would be everywhere, just as they are for Boeings which are everywhere in the real world. The Saab 2000, for example, is fairly popular in the game and it isn't penalized, even though in real life there are relatively few of them, and they haven't been made in a number of years.
#7
Posted 14 May 2009 - 08:15 AM
About the tupolev issue. Well if tupolev is not able to provide spares in the same time frame than boeing or airbus, then it is because of their infrastructure is not as efficient. Therefore if you wish to have the same service it is quite obvious that they would need to invest some money. Where do think this money will come from? From airplane sales... as far as i know that is the only way Tupolev gets income in this game. What i m suggesting is to either rise the price of the airplanes or to increase the operating cost. It is just a way to even things out
Both things will allow to stay as close as possible to the real world. Isn't that the point anyway?
#8
Posted 14 May 2009 - 08:35 AM
Airbus especially long range jets are by far much better than Boeing, in price and economy in this game but that is not the case in real life.
The 747's and 777's are more or less useless in AE. The only planes worh flying are the Airbuses , EMB 195's / 190's Q400's and ATR's .....
So alot of work still needs to be done. ANyway the Antonov is now a good contender for the Q400 in both range and speed so maybe it's a good idea to leave it as is for the time being.
#9
Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:50 PM
#10
Posted 14 May 2009 - 02:44 PM
#11
Posted 14 May 2009 - 04:28 PM
#12
Posted 14 May 2009 - 04:29 PM
#13
Posted 14 May 2009 - 07:32 PM
also, can the 787-3/9 be added along with the 747-8?
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#14
Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:55 PM
can the 787-3/9 be added along with the 747-8?
Those planes are too far away and the performance details are sketchy...if we added those we would have to add the A380-900 too (which would be a beast)
#15
Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:29 PM
#16
Posted 15 May 2009 - 02:39 AM
Russian beauties are not too bad.. though, i do say... the long-haul Boeing aircraft gotta be better v Airbus range.. i mean, everyone knows the B777-300ER in RL is 3-4% more fuel efficient against the A340-600 yet in the game, "4 engines for long haul" seems to be the best
#17
Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:43 AM
#18
Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:19 AM
#19
Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:39 PM
Those planes are too far away and the performance details are sketchy...if we added those we would have to add the A380-900 too (which would be a beast)
not really, i know the 787-8 has been in since some time 07, since i started jan 3rd 08 and its was in since i started, thats almost if not 2 years before the first one had even been completed or flown.
cant compare peaches to bananas
the A380-900 isnt even in developement yet or allowed for sales
but the 747-8, 787-3/9 are with the 747 in assembly and the later 787's undergoing final designs... the 747-8 should be starting testing late this year, thats just months off. they are certifying the -8i later because there are more -8F orders, but the -8i will have the same operating info as the -8F does only with a few minor differences... so even though its being certified later, it would be no different than when the 787 was entered in the system...
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#20
Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:59 PM
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