Well, this would also not be allowed in my world.... You should have a return trip ! and not 2 one ways.

In this simulation we do not really model passengers making a one way trip and not coming back I believe although in real life that is certainly possible. I see being allowed to make 1 one way trip on every route. In fact I would go so far as to say only 1 one way trip allowed per aircraft. Although you may want to make an exception for longhaul planes

The has to be a simple way of stopping players just massing on HIGH PROFIT routes, (I mean 10 x A330's) from HND to BCN like has been happening in the past, its not fair as the more they mass the higher their ticket prices go up.

Sure Terminals and Hubs bring in additional PAX but thats where this game in the past few rounds has been annoying, seeing massive Jets on one route. There are close to 500 locations to fly to, not just a handful.

Hi folks,

due to some strange database problems I have forced a reset of the sim2.

The game time will start again on Friday, 17:00 GMT. Mention one thing: It was a hard reset, so the prices/load factor right now are very low - they will rise with more players activated, so wait until friday. Before starting the time again, I will force the routeserver to recalculate all routes, so we have correct prices and loads.

Tobias, I am a little dissopointed that some issues were NOT addressed before opening up the game so players can LOG in again.

1:

Used Aircraft, there are airlines right now that have TWO aircraft, let's face the facts here, its easy for any cheater to make a feeder and release that aircraft onto the used market, WHY if the game is paused can players find used aircraft??????

2:

I have just made my Q400 travel so many miles that I am concerned that it may run out of fuel, I have not exactly worked out the exact millage my one and only Q400 is doing but I have used up all my gates at most of my 7 destination just from my ONE aircraft. The one way routes needs to be addressed?????

Sorry, if I sound harsh, but lets face the facts, right now you can make any aircraft fly that far its a JOKE and with so many routes that they make it will not be long till the game is in another reset state.....Used aircraft, players with Zero Aircraft and others with 2, soon some will have 3 aircraft and we are in puse role.

Getting to become a joke.....

To solve the long haul roundtrip problem, we could switch to a weekly system (for example, 5x weekly instead of having a daily one-way). So aircraft would have 154 hours a week to play with, and it would be more similar to real life operations. Just a thought

Now even more confused.....need that 2nd drink to work that out

Look this: http://ae.simulation...hp?player=23127 Average age: 5.0 years!!!

It is obvious that they are cheating!

All your starting aircraft are 5-yrs old....

Cleverly, I managed to forget the password for my account and couldn't retrieve it as the email address it would be sent to is no longer active. So today I registered a new account, which seemed to work at first, but now no longer does. I'm told that the account does not exist.

Have I missed something here and nobody is able to log in at the moment - or should I go and register yet another new account?

If you PM David or Tobias Iam sure when either has time that they will reset your password for you.....remember the server moved !!!!

Not all links have been re-established, I messaged Tobias today seeking that he do some sinple housekeeping to correct a lot of missing links....

Hi Janice,

Point 1: I will check how this is possible, but the second aircraft is not a aircraft bought via the used market. Checked the history entrys, every aircraft has only one history-entry right now - a sold and brought aircraft will have at least two entrys (data about the old owner, data about the new one). Thats not the case - but its true, I don't know right now whats going on in this case. There are also no entries in finance-table that the user has bought an ac. So thats definitivly cheating - the user will get banned.

Point 2: I know there are problems with one way. But I see some problems in solving this without a schedule. So in my opinion it should be possible to fly triangles with one-way routes. For example you should be able to plan this flights in sequence:

- FRA-FCO
- FCO-TXL
- TXL-FRA

So this is a closed sequence, should be possible and is ok. Not ok is such an sequence:

- FRA-FCO
- FCO-TXL
- FCO-LHR
- LHR-DUB

Thats not closed, and in this constellation the aircraft has to start two times from FCO, but it will fly only once through Rome. But without a schedule system its difficult to detect illegal one-way-sequences. Know a user creates route per route - single process. So the next problem is: take the legal example from above (FRA/FCO/TXL/FRA). Now the user removes the route FCO-TXL. What will happen now? Should we ground the aircraft and warn the user? Because now it's an illegal constellation.

So I will solve this problem - just give me some ideas. Is ground due to illegal constellation too hard? If not, it will be done very soon!

Bye,

Tobias

Points notes, just want this reset to become an even playing field, I am sure all honest players seek this simple request.

Below is my Q-400 routes.

While I do understand why players use one way over return due to the DOP gaining more than returns, I am still at a lost and I will look at my block/time/millage/ etc to see if there is issues in why so many routes one aircraft can make.

Oh, the aircraft / route pages look good, like the improvements, I see Alliances and maps are now up, just hope the cloud server keep up to speed.

Dammmm there you go again beating me to the punch - I need a drink...too much for me....

Build in a check that looks at one way freq...

Aircraft 1 fly 1 way from FCO - AMS -> Okay!

Airline tries another with same plane , this time return FCO - AMS -> Okay!

Airline tries with another plane return FCO - AMS -> Okay!
Airline tries with the same plane one way FCO - AMS -> "Sorry , only 1x one way allowed per route"

Dammm it, you took the words from me, carry-on Glennos you got it right......

But will add, if you take aircraft number 001 from FCO to AMS and try to make the same route again you have that check in place (Route allready made) just make the aircraft number check to see if the reversed is allowed. (Hope I explained that right)

Remark for myself: 24 hours per day are not enough

Did I not say in my PM to you that burning the candle at both ends results in getting toes burnt

So, you are saying that if you start out in ZRH and you must return to ZRH before you can make say ZRH to LHR :puzzled:

Really Annoying. Still Red.

If you wait till the second server kicks in it will alter, however in early stages, some will stay red till more players enter the system.....go play Xbox for 1/2 an hour and check back....

Login/page works again....my nerves - i think I will need a drink too.

Hopefully now it's stable. For test purposes the route server will run now just every 20 minutes (instead of 10) - just for testing, want to see if this was the reason or not.

Before you call it a night, remove that cheater with 2 aircraft, and PM glennos, Maestro and I on your progress on combatting cheaters within sim2 please.....

Yup, January 4 now... I missed the first two days! But hey - I'll beat you all anyway! haha!

Thats the spirit,.......whip em...!!!

Looks like a call for removal - cant all be different airlines??? :puzzled:

http://ae.simulation...hp?player=22946

http://ae.simulation...hp?player=22957

http://ae.simulation...hp?player=22969

http://ae.simulation...hp?player=22979

Same thing is happening to me!!!!

Think you are missing a few things about the game, for a start LTN is not a very strong location to start with, however right now with little players on line making routes you will find it hard to make $$$ till more players develop their routes.

You can confirm this by making a route from LTN to either CDG or FRA which are much stronger, I can assure you that those negitive numbers will not be there from either location.

Nice - Now let's see who are avid players on AE

I hope Tobias, that your efforts are fully rewarded.

Sorry not around a lot been very busy with work.

This is better than reading a good book.

Getting a real just reading players getting all this happening.

Glad I quit this round.

I had a previous post on this but it appears it has been closed and deleted (which is new!) without reason. I don't know who you think you are Glennos, but you are not above anyone here. There have been many complaints about you, and several threads (ie innapropriate responses). Go ahead and delete my post, but keep in mind I am not the only one aggravated by this. At least post what I can do to fix what I did rather than close and DELETE my thread.

Settle down, Glennos is just trying hard to keep some order in the BUG forum posts, even I have had posts removed/deleted as I was not posting correctly.

On the post about you refer, look at Announcement which is 2 times posted, once at the very top of the forum and 2nd in Sim Announcments (READ 1st !!!!!)

So there is not more posts on this issue I am closing this post as Tobias thinks he resolved the issue.

Sorry my fault - it seems to be too late to do anything. I am restoring a backup of 22:30 (CEST) (1:20 h ago), this will take some minutes (and some sql errors will appear on the website)

Sorry again.

Tobias, this didnt work, even your game account will have a massive loss. Take a look.......
:sniff:
Some have massive loss, I looked at two of my alliance members accounts since they are away and entrusted me to keep their DOP up there and they have losses across the board, one had 21M DOP now 640k.

For fear of sounding lik a moderator (I'm not), I think you will find that everyone has been affected if you read the multitude of other posts. I also believe that Elchie et al. are working on a solution so demanding one due to "playability" issues probably won't make you many friends.

The reality is that we are all dead in the water until a solution is presented for us all.

Agree, and Glennos would do just this

(CLOSED)

Too many posts, keep it down players and read the Announcement !!!!!!

the price is the Sale Price,

Wrong, every used aircraft has a number click on it, it will tell you all the history plus the sale price.

Tobias has placed up the 1/2 of the funds you need.

On the market right now is:

Aircraft Info
Aircraft ID: 469
Manufacturer: Antonov
Type: An-148-100
Family: An-148
Seats: 75
Age: 0 years
Crew: 2
In Production: Yes
Status
On Market for 0 months
Finance
Price (New): $20,000,000
Depreciation Rate: 0.08
Performance Data
Engine Type: FAN
Engines: 2 Motor Sich D-436-148
Thrust: 15,058 pounds
TSFC (Specific Fuel Consumption): 0.36
Fuel Flow: 10,842
Engine Weight: 3,086 pounds
Speed: 520 knots
Range: 2200 miles
Turn Time: 30 minutes
Takeoff Length: 6,000 feet
Aircraft HistoryDateNew OwnerValueMarch, Year 1MARKET$20,000,000March, Year 1Fly Dixie$20,000,000March, Year 1MARKET$20,000,000February, Year 1Zee Airways$19,900,000
See the price? $20M its up there for the amount you need in CASH £10m plus the buying from the broker 10% fee.

Echo

Also add the aircraft ID , might make it easier for Elchie to look into.

If you are going to post, please post correctly:

Add the problem ID of you and the aircraft in question, developers are not mind readers.

so funny

it is my me all used aircraft, so why should I post the id?

So you are Claiming ALL your aircraft? (6 of them)

ATR ATR-42-500 1
Bombardier Q400 3
Cessna C208 Caravan Grand 2

How much you pay for them???? we are mind readers..you know

I pay for:

Q400 -> $12,720,273
Q400 -> $19,300,000
ATR-42-500 -> $13,250,000
2X C208 Caravan Grand -> $2,100,000

plus the commission

the main "used aircraft" side said all the time the half prise and in the "buy ued aircraft" is all negativ prises

Then you have paid right, what you on about, the price there on the used market is exactly 1/2 what you need in ready cash to buy the aircraft.

Moving this post as you placed it in

Sim Announcements Announcements from Airline Empires Staff

It is now in BUGS please make sure you list in correct section.