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[AirKevin]

First of all, show some respect for Miller. Don't me talking about other games or simulators.

[mma]

Originally posted by Partyanima
I cannot seem to make a profit anywhere with a 767-300ER, Its all crap, I cant charge more then 400 dollars for a fare out of Cincinnati. I know in RL they have fares over that for DeGual and Heathrow (I am running another 767 successfully CVG-LHR) But when I try Degual or Tegal or Istambul or Honalulu or a multitude of other cities, I cant charge more then 400 dollars because noone wants to fly it.

IS there ANY way to make a profit flying internationaly? When will this get fixed?

I cant wait for Airlinesim to open its doors again....

Hmmmm I have the answer.....

Sell All and leave....

Bad Vibes talking like this....

[ziliu]

Originally posted by Partyanima
I cannot seem to make a profit anywhere with a 767-300ER, Its all crap, I cant charge more then 400 dollars for a fare out of Cincinnati. I know in RL they have fares over that for DeGual and Heathrow (I am running another 767 successfully CVG-LHR) But when I try Degual or Tegal or Istambul or Honalulu or a multitude of other cities, I cant charge more then 400 dollars because noone wants to fly it.

IS there ANY way to make a profit flying internationaly? When will this get fixed?

I cant wait for Airlinesim to open its doors again....

Finally I've encountered someone whose spelling of airport names is worse than Miller's... j/k

No but seriously, the reason for why you can't make money on CVG-CDG might just be because somebody else is flying an A346 on that route charging $475...

[Edited on 8/9/2005 by ziliu]

[doug_Or]

How macy passengers do you take through your CVG hub per day? You may have noticed Delta pretty much owns CVG and prvoides a huge amount of connection oppurtunities there. They als o have a clsoe relationship with AF that allows connections t obe made @ CVG. These flights are not succesful P2P flights, they are transfers between hubs.

[Maestro69]

JFK and MIA top the table as airports that aint that good!!!

I just think ur problem is u expect any route from a single airport to make money, but that doesnt happen in AE. First, my question would be, how big is ur presence at Cincinnati?? Do u have a hub there?? What type of aircraft fly ur shorter routes???

All these question will provide a logical answer. U cant expect any route long-haul route to make the same profit as say flying it from LHR. If u want ur long-haul from CVG to make money, u need firstly to build up ur airline at the airport, that means lots of routes to other US airports and thus, with a hub, will allow u to make more money.

[Maestro69]

If u wish CVG-TXL to work, u really need to build up ur CVG presence. If u have like 30% marketshare at CVG, that would suggest that u have plenty of flights in the US and thus, can earn more on the CVG-TXL route. Of course, TXL doesnt have much int. flights in real life, so....

[miller22 (inactive)]

Welcome to realistic airline competition. Cincinnati is not that large of a market to be running flights such as those. The only reason there currently are 5 international flights (FKR, LGW, CDG, FCO, AMS) is because Delta connects very heavily into Cincinnati. I largely doubt you have similar amounts of connecting traffic into a Cincinnati hub.

Airline Empires is designed to be difficult, and in turn realistic. It takes real marketing intelligence to succeed, as many of the successful AE players will tell you.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by Partyanima
I cannot seem to make a profit anywhere with a 767-300ER, Its all crap, I cant charge more then 400 dollars for a fare out of Cincinnati. I know in RL they have fares over that for DeGual and Heathrow (I am running another 767 successfully CVG-LHR) But when I try Degual or Tegal or Istambul or Honalulu or a multitude of other cities, I cant charge more then 400 dollars because noone wants to fly it.

IS there ANY way to make a profit flying internationaly? When will this get fixed?

I cant wait for Airlinesim to open its doors again....

My friend, Cincinnati-Honolulu is not an international flight.

To get the 767-300ER to work, you need one really large airport, and CVG is not it. Trans-Atlantic, you should have a reasonable chance of success (pending competition) with LHR, CDG, MAD, FRA, AMS, and maybe FCO and LGW. Others...good luck.

[Yesthatsme]

yeah chicken pretty much covered it

[Maestro69]

I dont thinkg CVG-LGW is going to really make that much. THe only really choices he will have from CVG are LHR, CDG, FRA, AMS, FCO and MAD. Nothing else there.

[Maestro69]

Originally posted by miller22

Airline Empires is designed to be difficult, and in turn realistic. It takes real marketing intelligence to succeed, as many of the successful AE players will tell you.

real marketing intelligence to succeed???? hmmm and all i thought was that we needed to know that anything above $0 profit would make money. Well, there goes that theory....

[miller22 (inactive)]

Originally posted by Maestro69

Originally posted by miller22

Airline Empires is designed to be difficult, and in turn realistic. It takes real marketing intelligence to succeed, as many of the successful AE players will tell you.

real marketing intelligence to succeed???? hmmm and all i thought was that we needed to know that anything above $0 profit would make money. Well, there goes that theory....

That certainly helps, but don't forget that the route profit is only operating profit. You still have to pay for gates, aircraft, etc.