15 replies to this topic

[Ansett]

Hi everyone, just wondering about aircraft maintenance, i have a 737-200Adv, its 8 years old and in the aircraft general information tab under monthly expenses it tell me it costs $254,458 a month for maintenance, but if i go to the aircraft maintenance tab in airline finance its telling me it costs $1,615,952 a month in maintenance, just wondering why there is such a big difference? it says the aircraft is making $613,000 profit a month but if i have to pay the $1,615,952 in the other maintenance tab its not worth keeping in service????

thanks in advance

ben

[PacificAirways]

1. You have to pay a surcharge for every "type" of aircraft you own. This is a once a month surcharge (not per aircraft).
2. You may want to think about loaning planes from the manufacturers rather then of the market. They are brand new and generally only take about a day to arrive (@30m/day). This can save you loads in maintenance and you can place a bulk order, allot easier then trying to buy 10 aircraft at 1y old of the market.

I hope these tips will help you out

[Ansett]

Cheers i shall replace them with good old A320's

thanks for the help

[yosi]

every aircraft maintenance have family base cost.
and boeing 737 jurasic family base cost is $1,300,000.
so yo have to pay more!
but the base cost is once pay each month.
so you have 2 or more aircraft base cost dosen't change.
if you want to revenue, leased or bought many aricraft same family.

ps. 737-adv is one of the 737 jurasic family.

[heinkel]

every aircraft maintenance have family base cost.
and boeing 737 jurasic family base cost is $1,300,000.
so yo have to pay more!
but the base cost is once pay each month.
so you have 2 or more aircraft base cost dosen't change.
if you want to revenue, leased or bought many aricraft same family.

ps. 737-adv is one of the 737 jurasic family.

I have 11 767-200 and 6 767-200ER, and on the maintenance tab it said that the base cost is $3,3m. But Total Monthly Cost of Boeing 767 Fleet: $81,941,576 !!!! How the hell I'm gonna pay $82m while my DOP is only $2,4m??

[Joshua C.]

Me too! My 767 is not generaing enough revenue to pay for maintenance. I think the aircraft maintenance cost is a serious issue and should be fixed quickly

[bolli]

There are more serious aircraft
In the beta, try to get rid of aircraft that older than 10 years.

[Klobo747]

Hi all, I encountered the same problem with all my planes, leased and also owned ones. I have a fleet of 6 AVRO RJ100. In the "Airline Finance" page under Aircraft maintenance the Avro regional jet (base cost) is 1.020.000$ monthly cost. Then in the list my RJ100 0.9years old plane has a mothly cost of 255.680$. Clicking on it, in the aircraft details - mothly expanses, the maintenance cost is 141.984$. So how is maintanace cost computed? Where are the mechanics fees counted in?

I also operate an 767-200 6 years old (leased) the base cost is 3.6M $ and the monthly mainetance is 3.1M $, but in the aicraft details - monthly expenses the maintenance is 560.000 $

Bug or what????

Thanks

[ecko117]

I am also failing to understand what is exactly going on with all these maintenance costs... I figured out that I have to pay 3 different types of maintenance costs for 1 plane.

Let's say an A320-200
1. The base cost for the family 1,471,500 (I have 52 of them so I bring the cost down to 1,471,500/52=28,298 per plane which is good)
2. 2 years old aircraft costs additional 572,904 on the same list (for what? can anyone explain, please?)(I thought payment No. 3 (the following) was enough)
3. And one more monthly expense of 215,035 which is found one the aircraft details. (which I am OK with too) (I don't understand why is the No. 2 payment not included into this one or stay together as the same number on both lists but counted for once?)

I would seriously appreciate if anyone explained this, because I cannot make any sense of the 2nd and 3rd payments. What I mean is "Why do we need 2 when we could have had just 1?".

[Klobo747]

Also I noticed other strange things in finance summary:

If you sum the daily profit of each route (of a given plane) and multiply per 31 days, you should get the monthly revenue sum displayed in the aircraft summary, but you get 15% less.

Maybe this is something that should be posted in the bug forum too.

[ecko117]

Also I noticed other strange things in finance summary:

If you sum the daily profit of each route (of a given plane) and multiply per 31 days, you should get the monthly revenue sum displayed in the aircraft summary, but ju get 15% less.

Maybe this is something that should be posted in the bug forum too.

The thing is that game is based on 24 days per month. That's why you are missing some money.

[Klobo747]

The thing is that game is based on 24 days per month. That's why you are missing some money.

Ah... ok.

But if you multiply per 24 you get even less....

TLS - BLQ 20x weekly
2.9x daily
3/3 F 14/14 C 152/153 Y
100% 100% 99%
496 miles
72 hours 15 minutes $72,482 Details

BLQ - BRU 42x weekly
6.0x daily
6/6 F 30/30 C 321/321 Y
100% 100% 100%
542 miles
161 hours 06 minutes $84,688 Details

BLQ - FCO 16x weekly
2.3x daily
2/2 F 8/11 C 120/122 Y
100% 73% 98%
194 miles
33 hours 57 minutes $18,878 Details

So: (72,482+84,688+18,878)*24 = 4,225,152 $

But in aircraft details I have

Monthly Revenue
Ticket Revenue $6,139,131

[ecko117]

Ah... ok.

But if you multiply per 24 you get even less....

TLS - BLQ 20x weekly
2.9x daily
3/3 F 14/14 C 152/153 Y
100% 100% 99%
496 miles
72 hours 15 minutes $72,482 Details

BLQ - BRU 42x weekly
6.0x daily
6/6 F 30/30 C 321/321 Y
100% 100% 100%
542 miles
161 hours 06 minutes $84,688 Details

BLQ - FCO 16x weekly
2.3x daily
2/2 F 8/11 C 120/122 Y
100% 73% 98%
194 miles
33 hours 57 minutes $18,878 Details

So: (72,482+84,688+18,878)*24 = 4,225,152 $

But in aircraft details I have

Monthly Revenue
Ticket Revenue $6,139,131

What does your net profit monthly show? Is it not 4,225,152 $?

[Klobo747]

What does your net profit monthly show? Is it not 4,225,152 $?

No, it's 3,719,957 $

[ecko117]

No, it's 3,719,957 $

Hmm... Maybe you have some other planes added to one of those routes? If not, then it's either some technicality which we don't know about or a bug.

[ecko117]

Hey, I just figured it out. I think you forget to subtract maintenance and depreciation(or lease) costs, they are not included into daily incomes.

Here is an example:
757-200

Manual calculation:

ALA - ZRH 3x 125,006x3=375,018
ALA - CDG 5x 133,014x5=665,070
ALA - DEZ 1x 107,114

Sum of weekly flights=375,018+665,070+107,114=1,147,202
Daily income(excluding operating costs)=1,147,202/7=163,886
Monthly income(excluding operating costs)=163,886x24=3,933,264

Maintenance(from aircraft details)=317,768
Depreciation(from aircraft details)=261,667
Net Profit (Monthly)=3,933,264-317,768-261,667=3,353,829

Game calculation:

Net Profit (Monthly)=3,353,829

It comes equal