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Possible Death of B777X and Possible development of A350-2000


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With the situation getting nastier by day around the US3 and ME3. The US Government and the Trump administration are forced to pick sides with Either Boeing or US3 in regards with Open Skies agreements.

 

In one hand, the growth of ME3 is beneficial for Boeing who sell them tons of aircraft, ranging from B737 to the famous B777. And of course, the ME3 is the back bone of B777X program. 72% of B777x backlogs come from ME3 alone. With possible heavy restrictions on Open Skies agreements, there would be big retaliations from ME3 because they can't easily access or grow into the US markets, hence they need to cut back on certain capacity which resulted on how they needed less aircraft.

 

With this possible outcome, do you think Airbus could launch A350-2000? Because I've heard they cancel this project because many of their prospective customers goes with B777X instead (Singapore airlines, Cathay Pacific, ME3, or Lufthansa). Hence they didn't want to waste money on the aircraft that nobody gonna buy.

 

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He is using a logical fallacy in order to make excuses for being subsidized. If Emirates cancels their order, their CEO is acting like the demand for the routes disappear with the order. 

 

Perhaps Delta will buy those 777's and fly the routes instead. Or not. Either way I don't see Boeing canceling the 777 based on this snowflake.



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Are you sure though? none of the US3 order B777X, and even they did, do you think their combine orders would be enough to replace Emirates 150 aircraft?

 

Also, Delta has been saying in the past that they don't want big planes to operates, hence why they replace their B747-400 with A350-900 instead. United also convert all their A350-1000 to A350-900 because it's too big for them.

 

Don't forget what Emirates done before, they cancel 70 of their A350's orders. As well as ordering B787-10 when they signaling Airbus that they gonna buy A380 during the air show. 


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I think this sums it up nicely... I hadn't seen this before I had replied... but this video makes some good points. 

 

In addition... airbus has a trillion dollars in back orders... something like 1000+ planes... boeing has 700+ or so... the point is if they aren't making 777x then they will be making something else... and once you cancel 150 planes on boeing... it's not like they just forget that next time they negotiate slots...

 

this was a political play to attempt to influence congress and the white house.... not a serious threat. it doesn't make sense economically... and as the video points out.. if open skies breaks down... he wont need those airbus planes either. 



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The reason 777 operating airlines are not ordering the 777x is that it is to early to replace them. The current 777 family is reliable and efficient and will be in he far future. When time comes it will be time to replace them and the 777x is a excellent option. Meanwhile the proposed A350-2000 is simply a concept.




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