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My airline (ChongqingDirect, used to be a spamline and kinda still is but I'm working hard to change it) has a fleet of mostly around 200 seat, relatively long-range planes that are basically perfect for my routes. However, my Tu-114s and 707-320s are getting old and are really hurting my fleet age. I'm replacing the Tupolevs gradually with new leased 707s but I'm hesitant to order too many because they're a really old and inefficient plane. With 6 years until the 757 comes out, there truly is no replacement for my current fleet. I can't downsize, as no smaller planes have a 5000 mile range. Should I buy new widebodies like L1011s or DC10s and make less frequencies, or deal with the old planes and wait out the 752?



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You could probably upgauge some of your 707 routes to widebodies, and just wait for the 757 to replace thinner routes

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And don't get too broken up about it. United Airlines kept their mid to late 60s vintage DC-8s until something like 1992 or 93

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I also need to reduce my 18-19hr daily use to more like 15



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The Tu-114's carry around 20 more pax than the 707, can fly almost as far, almost as fast, & do it on half the fuel. They might be a bit ugly, but they're very efficient. Replacing them with 707's, even new ones, seems a bit backward to me. The DC-8-50 is also comparable to the above, although has a slightly lower pax capacity & similar fuel burn to the 707.

 

If you want to impress your pax with a more modern western aircraft (for the time), then yes, the L1011 & DC-10 would be your next pick. I think the 767-200 comes out around the same time as the 757, so you could look forward to that too. Also the A300B4 has less range than the 707 & Tu-114, but it was the true game changer of the early 70's. That & the 747 of course!

 

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My airline (ChongqingDirect, used to be a spamline and kinda still is but I'm working hard to change it) has a fleet of mostly around 200 seat, relatively long-range planes that are basically perfect for my routes. However, my Tu-114s and 707-320s are getting old and are really hurting my fleet age. I'm replacing the Tupolevs gradually with new leased 707s but I'm hesitant to order too many because they're a really old and inefficient plane. With 6 years until the 757 comes out, there truly is no replacement for my current fleet. I can't downsize, as no smaller planes have a 5000 mile range. Should I buy new widebodies like L1011s or DC10s and make less frequencies, or deal with the old planes and wait out the 752?

I'd go with the Lockheed L-1011 "Tristar" yes you do have to reduce the routes but in turn you can free up more slots so you can make more routes.

 

I think its a win-win situation for me.



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The Tu-114's carry around 20 more pax than the 707, can fly almost as far, almost as fast, & do it on half the fuel. They might be a bit ugly, but they're very efficient. Replacing them with 707's, even new ones, seems a bit backward to me. The DC-8-50 is also comparable to the above, although has a slightly lower pax capacity & similar fuel burn to the 707.

 

If you want to impress your pax with a more modern western aircraft (for the time), then yes, the L1011 & DC-10 would be your next pick. I think the 767-200 comes out around the same time as the 757, so you could look forward to that too. Also the A300B4 has less range than the 707 & Tu-114, but it was the true game changer of the early 70's. That & the 747 of course!

 

Good luck, have fun.

It's more the fact that the Tupolevs are getting old and they feel like such spam planes. Yes, their specs are good in this game, but they wouldn't have been a commercial success in real life.







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