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I've been playing Airline Empires on and off for about 2 years now and found something out about one year ago that i have seen no-one mention on the forums. I found out that demand always comes in a 1F-6C- 43Y configuration or a multiplication of this configuration. As a result, all my airplanes are always configured in this configuration or thus a multiplication. This way, my airplanes can always fill the demand completely without over- or underfilling the demand. 

 

In my opinion this is also something that could be changed for a next version of Airline Empires, since in real life I think there are some routes with much more demand for Business Class (for example JFK-LHR) than others (For example a touristic route, like JFK-BCN).

 

Am I the first one to discover this, or not? And would you think this should be something to be changed?



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I've noticed this as well, though I generally stopped using F/C years ago. 

 

The one modification I'd suggest is that you tip supply slightly more toward Y than the default demand suggests. 

Why? 

Because with 3-class product offerings you can exceed Y demand by a significant degree - on the order of 10% - while it's harder to exceed default demand in F/C.



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by the way...

 

It always struck me how few people noticed this. I often see players with far too much F/C demand and wonder whether they're manually adjusting their premium prices downwards to adjust for their miscalculation. If so, how did they never just try adjusting their cabin mix until they reach the proper configuration? 



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I've been playing Airline Empires on and off for about 2 years now and found something out about one year ago that i have seen no-one mention on the forums. I found out that demand always comes in a 1F-6C- 43Y configuration or a multiplication of this configuration. As a result, all my airplanes are always configured in this configuration or thus a multiplication. This way, my airplanes can always fill the demand completely without over- or underfilling the demand. 

 

It's okay to over-fill demand (to a point, then diminishing returns increase exponentially). Your ratio is good for pure green pax, but, as mentioned above, you can exceed C and Y actual demand by a decent percentage. I would always work on meeting and never exceeding F demand, except when there is a very large F demand. A little bit of blue pax is perfectly fine.

 

There is a thread somewhere that talks about the ratio. I think it's from 2-3 years ago. I figured out the ratio about 5 years ago.

 



by the way...

 

It always struck me how few people noticed this. I often see players with far too much F/C demand and wonder whether they're manually adjusting their premium prices downwards to adjust for their miscalculation. If so, how did they never just try adjusting their cabin mix until they reach the proper configuration? 

 

It boggles the mind. This airline uses a head-scratching 1:4:5 ratio, and always does 14-28 frequencies on any small demand route (2-4F). That means the player is exceeding F demand by upwards of 46 seats. The player also uses default pricing, and I have no idea how he could possibly have anywhere close to 100% LF in F or C, or even make any kind of profit in F or C on those routes.

 

The airline's DOP is only around 70M. If the planes were configured properly, the DOP could be 2-3x that.



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There is actually a algorithm (of sorts) for this.

F class: total amount of seats on the plane/55

C class: F class*6

Y class: C class*7

ALWAYS ROUND DOWN.

Hope that helped.

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Yeah, I think I got it from there - can't remember if it was that thread or another.


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I often see players with far too much F/C demand

There is a $9999 cap on the ticket price; when you can't raise them any further, all you can do is increase the seats. Another example where limits discourage realism.



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It's okay to over-fill demand (to a point, then diminishing returns increase exponentially). Your ratio is good for pure green pax, but, as mentioned above, you can exceed C and Y actual demand by a decent percentage. 

This is true but on the bigger routes there is generally to much demand to fill and also have seats for blue pax remaining. What I generally do is make 21 weekly flights so that the frequency is decent and fill it with green pax, since this is the most profitable pax. That way, you have the most profitable planes. 



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There is actually a algorithm (of sorts) for this.


Since we're talking about algorhitms, does anyone know what the best ratio between actual seats and default seats for the best legroom reputation is?

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Since we're talking about algorhitms, does anyone know what the best ratio between actual seats and default seats for the best legroom reputation is?

 



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I like the 1F-6C- 43Y idea - I should try this...



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Since the number of passenger markets displayed is based on daily rates while the number of flights is based on weekly so its become much easier to set the number of passenger seats is arranged in multiples of 7 for each class.




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