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Wow a straight white conservative male who doesn't like feminism, social justice or Bernie Sanders? Who'd have thunk it?

I too can post videos from YouTube which 100% agree with and validate my political views. So intellectual.

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And you know I have to recall the great Tupac Shakur:

"You've got money for wars but can't feed the poor?"

That fact I just don't buy. Nobody ever asked where the money for Iraq was going to come from? Or the lost revenue from most Republican tax cut proposals. And when the GOP does propose where that money comes from, it comes from the backs of people already struggling to get by. You try living on $12,000 a year from social security and tell me how well you do out there.

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And you know I have to recall the great Tupac Shakur:

"You've got money for wars but can't feed the poor?"

That fact I just don't buy. Nobody ever asked where the money for Iraq was going to come from? Or the lost revenue from most Republican tax cut proposals. And when the GOP does propose where that money comes from, it comes from the backs of people already struggling to get by. You try living on $12,000 a year from social security and tell me how well you do out there.

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Stev once again a deflection of the arguments within the video. Also your truly most loved Wall Street journal a liberal paper came out with these numbers. (not the editorial which even for me is unbearably conservative). Remember I like to identify with the movement not the party, and if you held a gun to my head I would probably claim the Libertarian party over the GOP. The video shows that even in the most extreme STATIST situation Bernie's plan is still a CRUNK OF s***.    



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On many of these threads I have seem to have WON these arguments, I told you about the now almost UNIVERSALLY affirmed critique of the fiscal implications of a Bernie presidency. No one responded. Remember and I can make a song out of it Spain=s***, Italy=s***, Greece=s***, and France=s***. And overall the entire Euro-zone (besides two countries that the E.U bullies and mistreats U.K and Germany) IS ABSOLUTE s***. These countries along with Sweden in a few years will be and ARE the picture of failed LIBERALISM! If you want your policies get your ****ing unamerican s*** and take it to Europe, they will love your victim attitude there. They may even give you some speech code laws to protect your astronomically infantile minds, you would LOVE IT there. You are all stuck in the OLD WORLD why in the hell would you want to back to, tyrannical, bureaucratic, all controlling governments. You all are obviously ill informed about what it truly means to be an American! 

 

 

Yeah, you're a real winner. You WON, wow... I guess you've never heard what they say about winning Internet arguments, champ.

 

 

You seem to be everything the entire world likes to hate about America. Jingoistic x. 

 

Europe is nothing that you describe here so you've probably never been outside US, but your narrow-mindedness is your problem.

Spain got the handle of its crisis and seriously cut a lot of social benefits and cut down on standard so pays checks are lower, but today its GDP is rising. Speaking about conservatism, Italy is weird economically (and was run by a conservative billionaire for a long time anyway) but socially it's one of the most conservative Western countries with a lot of doctors being conscientious objectors about abortions and gay relationships being nowhere legally that even most new Eastern EU members approved; but I fail to see how that's such a beacon of hope like you're blabbing about conservatism... And speaking of all the other differences in the East and West, it's so diverse.. And those tyrannical governments, tyrannical towards whom, wtf? 

 

And simply put, most European countries today are increasing efficiency by seriously cutting social benefits, like France removing 35 h work week, and health system, infrastructure etc. being increasingly privatized, outsourced, government workers let go, work legislature being changed to fire people more easily in all sectors, minimum wages mostly not rising above inflation and so on. Most EU countries have less unionized workers than US, even France. Germany did it earlier under social-democrat (for you only Socialist) Schröder since it was in crisis when others grew 15 years ago, but it's more efficient today after his "socialist" government liberalized work laws etc. No-one went against this trend in the last 10 years, so there's obviously less socialism in EU, but for Tea Party's discourse this is some awful Stalinism getting worse and worse. LOL

 

So gimme a break, your Tea Party literature is obviously very lost. Calling today's Europe "socialist" and "tyrannical" is a joke on them.

 

It's too complex to short-list all the European mutual differences and similarities with US and so on, but it doesn't seem to be helpful to explain to someone like you.

 

And your illiterate liberalism-bashing is even less than one Glenn Beck can understand.

 

Being so angry is not very helpful, but I guess I'm a victim-attitude European p**** so I must see it that way. But again I'm surprised your angry attitude is not converted to Trump-ism, just saying, maybe I got something wrong.



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Wait, so Adam gets chewed out for winning an Internet argument, but konj agrees with you and he gets Internet points?

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Wait, so Adam gets chewed out for winning an Internet argument, but konj agrees with you and he gets Internet points?

No, Konj gets free Common sense. 



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Anderson is right Konj took advantage of the situation as the people I was arguing with neither gave true rebuttals to my statements. Konj never had to face the many stages of my argument and merely picked the piece he saw as most easy to explain away.



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Anderson is right Konj took advantage of the situation as the people I was arguing with neither gave true rebuttals to my statements. Konj never had to face the many stages of my argument and merely picked the piece he saw as most easy to explain away.

 

"22 renowned AE members declare "war" on ItsAdam"

 

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