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[Will101]

Because they don't exist yet and reliable data cannot be found.

[zipp]

I found reliable data from the manufacturer, and some of the A350 series dont exist either, alongside others.

But since the first flight of those is a lot earlier, reliable data is readily available.

Also, a note TWA,

http://www.airline-e...aft-read-first/

http://www.airline-e...rk-in-progress/

http://www.airline-e...d-requests-log/

 

"Boeing 737MAX [Awaiting more detailed data - BritAbroad]"

"Airbus A320 NEO [Awaiting more detailed data - BritAbroad]"

[Austranadian Group]

sigh............

[the DOC]

I presume when the aircraft are actually rolled out is when they'll be added here...

[Armodeen]

The first A320NEO is in production now. The chap also has a point about the A350-800/1000

[zipp]

The first A320NEO is in production now. The chap also has a point about the A350-800/1000

The data collectors have decided. No

[the DOC]

The data collectors have decided. No

Well there is a case for them but then again, data collectors have final say

[KJS607]

data collectors have final say

Brit has the final say in aircraft

[the DOC]

Brit has the final say in aircraft

If the data is there (even if it's not the final data but data from the manufacturers) why are new aircraft (like this) get thrown by the wayside? (just asking, not accusing or attacking)

[KJS607]

If the data is there (even if it's not the final data but data from the manufacturers) why are new aircraft (like this) get thrown by the wayside? (just asking, not accusing or attacking)

ask brit...

[the DOC]

If the data is there (even if it's not the final data but data from the manufacturers) why are new aircraft (like this) get thrown by the wayside? (just asking, not accusing or attacking)

Well then Brit I pose this question....

[BritAbroad]

You will be pleased to know that before Christmas, one of the Data Collector team, Northern, provided me with a complete set of referenced data for the A320NEO. I haven't had chance to go through it yet, but this may mean that the aircraft makes it into the game.

 

If the data is there (even if it's not the final data but data from the manufacturers) why are new aircraft (like this) get thrown by the wayside? (just asking, not accusing or attacking)

 

In answer to the quoted question above: I will consider all aircraft additions. The problem with freshly-announced aircraft is that most data is a combination of the manufacturer's pipe dream and the operators' wishlist. Information is quite often sparse, differs wildly between documents and some of the more obscure technical stuff that is used in AE simply doesn't exist. I am usually against the idea of completely making up or "tweaking" information, as it quite often ends up in the realms of the imaginary and involves accusations of bias. If, however, there is a good case and solid information exists for aircraft not yet in production, then it may enter the game.

As time goes on, and a more solid design comes about, and tests are done, this data "settles" and becomes more readily available and more usable. When this happens, I will always reconsider an aircraft. I will look into the NEO and MAX in the near future, and they may enter in future.

 

 

EDIT: Doc, it looks like you posted when I was typing this - my apologies.

[the DOC]

You will be pleased to know that before Christmas, one of the Data Collector team, Northern, provided me with a complete set of referenced data for the A320NEO. I haven't had chance to go through it yet, but this may mean that the aircraft makes it into the game.


In answer to the quoted question above: I will consider all aircraft additions. The problem with freshly-announced aircraft is that most data is a combination of the manufacturer's pipe dream and the operators' wishlist. Information is quite often sparse, differs wildly between documents and some of the more obscure technical stuff that is used in AE simply doesn't exist. I am usually against the idea of completely making up or "tweaking" information, as it quite often ends up in the realms of the imaginary and involves accusations of bias. If, however, there is a good case and solid information exists for aircraft not yet in production, then it may enter the game.
As time goes on, and a more solid design comes about, and tests are done, this data "settles" and becomes more readily available and more usable. When this happens, I will always reconsider an aircraft. I will look into the NEO and MAX in the near future, and they may enter in future.


EDIT: Doc, it looks like you posted when I was typing this - my apologies.

That's grand thanks. I was just interested know and if I could be of any assistance. +1 Northern for getting the information but if this information does mean the addition of the A320NEO, when (realistically and not an AE wishlist ) would it actually be available in-game?

[BritAbroad]

That's grand thanks. I was just interested know and if I could be of any assistance. +1 Northern for getting the information but if this information does mean the addition of the A320NEO, when (realistically and not an AE wishlist ) would it actually be available in-game?

 

I'm keen not to give definite time scales, but if everything seems in order, it could be soon.

 

 

Well why are all the A350-1000s on ther? they have a later date then the 787-10

 

The A350 series aircraft were  added before I took up my current role here and before the policies that I work to were drawn up. I might have been tempted to remove them, but that gets complicated and its hard to work retrospectively.

[the DOC]

I'm keen not to give definite time scales, but if everything seems in order, it could be soon.



The A350 series aircraft were added before I took up my current role here and before the policies that I work to were drawn up. I might have been tempted to remove them, but that gets complicated and its hard to work retrospectively.

Thanks Brit (and Northern and Nwxm)