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[Stevphfeniey]

[porter]

Ok, frankly, SB, there is giving your honest opinion and then there is belittling someone. You are stepping way too close to the belittling line. It's one thing to point out flaws, its entirely another to just blatantly call something a piece of excrement.

Is it flawed, sure. But I seem to remember that you had crappy, poorly executed designs when you first started out too. And honestly, I don't remember anyone acting like you do to them. For someone truly starting out, its good work. Is it professional level? No. But last I checked, none of us works in a design studio for an airline. That, and compared to other people who are starting out, his work has a ton more potential than most.

So, how about you nicely point out the flaws and quit acting like your Gordon Ramsey or Simon Cowell for 5 mins, because quite frankly, I'm tired of the bullying, cussing, and rudeness you pass off as being 'blunt.' You can easily use even slightly nicer language and not come off as sounding like a pompous, self righteous ass.
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On a different note... Everett, I think it looks good. Your work is improving. I think the coloring could use some tweaking, but I can see where you are drawing your inspiration from. That, and the logo could use some refining. The font does seem a tad too generic for the design, so I would suggest taking a look around Dafont and finding something with a bit more character.

To sum it up, keep practicing. I'm really liking how fast your work is evolving and I look forward to seeing what tweaks you might make on the Taca livery.

[Superman]

Ok, frankly, SB, there is giving your honest opinion and then there is belittling someone. You are stepping way too close to the belittling line. It's one thing to point out flaws, its entirely another to just blatantly call something a piece of excrement.

Is it flawed, sure. But I seem to remember that you had crappy, poorly executed designs when you first started out too. And honestly, I don't remember anyone acting like you do to them. For someone truly starting out, its good work. Is it professional level? No. But last I checked, none of us works in a design studio for an airline. That, and compared to other people who are starting out, his work has a ton more potential than most.

So, how about you nicely point out the flaws and quit acting like your Gordon Ramsey or Simon Cowell for 5 mins, because quite frankly, I'm tired of the bullying, cussing, and rudeness you pass off as being 'blunt.' You can easily use even slightly nicer language and not come off as sounding like a pompous, self righteous ass.
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On a different note... Everett, I think it looks good. Your work is improving. I think the coloring could use some tweaking, but I can see where you are drawing your inspiration from. That, and the logo could use some refining. The font does seem a tad too generic for the design, so I would suggest taking a look around Dafont and finding something with a bit more character.

To sum it up, keep practicing. I'm really liking how fast your work is evolving and I look forward to seeing what tweaks you might make on the Taca livery.

[Speed Bird]

I am 'a pompous, self righteous ass'. I don't care what people think of me.

I've said nothing that's against the rules of AE, you might not like my manner, but that's not my problem.

I've been doing it for years. I get this kind of response often. I reply like this often. It's almost becoming a weekly thing.

Everett knows what I'm like anyway. Often I've been asked for my opinion, and he knows my style.

[Superman]

Well your opinions could offend people...

[Speed Bird]

'could'? They do.

[Speed Bird]

You lot think these posts are going to make me change don't you?

[Speed Bird]

Im not answering that. But i know one thing. Your going to wake up one day, pissed at the world and your self because of how you treat people.

Have fun.

Yeah... I'm sure I'll feel 'pissed' at the world of AE one day

[Royen]

Thanks both porter and Ross for saying all our thoughts and opinions on behalf of the Airline Empires community!

[Speed Bird]

Yeah, I'll live

[lshlarson]

Yeah, I'll live

SB, if you're going to be a pedantic perfectionist, you might as well change the last element of your signature from "Je nais sais quoi" to the correct phrasing "Je ne sais pas quoi".

[M.F. Ensembleson]

Let's relook at the title of the topic here, shall we?

E7 - Airline Livery & Logo Design

I might be wrong, but it doesn't sound like, "Explain whether or not you think Speed Bird is an ass."

Now for crying out loud, if you comment, please make it about Everetts liveries, which are quite good, I must say.

[Air Scotland]

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[M4matthew]

SB, if you're going to be a pedantic perfectionist, you might as well change the last element of your signature from "Je nais sais quoi" to the correct phrasing "Je ne sais pas quoi".

I was going to say this before, but felt I didn't need another French lesson from SB after the Parisian review. "Je ne sais quoi" is fine in an informal setting, one thing is for sure - it certainly isn't "nais", from the French verb Naître, "To be born".

[Speed Bird]

That's probably because it's actually an English phrase adapted from the French language, and is not a direct translation.

Defined, Je nais sais quoi means 'something of

an indefinable, elusive quality, especially a pleasing one:

She has a certain je ne sais quoi that charms everybody.'

[QK Flight Industries]

That's probably because it's actually an English phrase adapted from the French language, and is not a direct translation.

Defined, Je nais sais quoi means 'something of

an indefinable, elusive quality, especially a pleasing one:

She has a certain je ne sais quoi that charms everybody.'

[M4matthew]

She has a certain je ne sais quoi that charms everybody.'

I rest my case, in the example it says "ne" rather than "nais".

http://dictionary.re...je+ne+sais+quoi

https://www.google.c...3e2fc14b&ix=aca

[Speed Bird]

Fair enough, I've cocked up there

[Moldova96]

Im locking this topic due to going off topic.