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oh, God...
cant imagine how green is your frequency on SIN-HKG now...

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How about SIN-CGK sir ^_^ ^_^

I have the highest price, so your load factor still in green for sure :P :P

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i hate when research new route which no competitor on there but no any gate available.. <_<
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How about SIN-CGK sir ^_^ ^_^

I have the highest price, so your load factor still in green for sure :P :P


You have the highest price?
What if I top your price on this route?
Like this...

:diablo:

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and the result is...

:whistling:

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but, heeeyyy...
you're still having the most pax...
how much is your income here?

:blink:

i hate when research new route which no competitor on there but no any gate available.. <_<


Let me guess...
Europe?

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Ermm, speaking of CGK, I think it's my time to invade to the capital... Prepare for another competitor guys... ;)

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Ermm, speaking of CGK, I think it's my time to invade to the capital... Prepare for another competitor guys... ;)


I didnt know that you havent invade this place...
O_O

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I didnt know that you havent invade this place...
O_O


Save the best for the last :P

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Let me guess...
Europe?


yeah..

Ermm, speaking of CGK, I think it's my time to invade to the capital... Prepare for another competitor guys... ;)


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wah ekor cincin parah bgt klo udah bikin rute, masa rute yg pax nya di bwh 150 dan udah keisi, di masukin sm pesawat dgn trip yg byk, awak aja di klo mw masuk rute, klo udh dibawah 150 dan keisi gak akan masuk lg, kecuali penerbangan domestik, dan kalaupun masuk cuma 1 flight doang....
ane sebenarnya main ae ini mw main damai, apalagi sesama indonesia, liat aja pesawat udah ga ada lg order dgn jrk <4000 mil, dan sampai saat ini udah ga ada order pesawat baru lg, tp dlm orderan masih ada, tapi klo mau mainnya menuh2in rute, sampe pendapatan per rute minus, ane siap ngeladeni,...

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wah ekor cincin parah bgt klo udah bikin rute, masa rute yg pax nya di bwh 150 dan udah keisi, di masukin sm pesawat dgn trip yg byk, awak aja di klo mw masuk rute, klo udh dibawah 150 dan keisi gak akan masuk lg, kecuali penerbangan domestik, dan kalaupun masuk cuma 1 flight doang....
ane sebenarnya main ae ini mw main damai, apalagi sesama indonesia, liat aja pesawat udah ga ada lg order dgn jrk <4000 mil, dan sampai saat ini udah ga ada order pesawat baru lg, tp dlm orderan masih ada, tapi klo mau mainnya menuh2in rute, sampe pendapatan per rute minus, ane siap ngeladeni,...


agak ga ngerti nih, bagian mana ya yang parahnya?
kalo ada seat Ekor Cincin yang dipasang di atas demand, bisa tolong konfirmasikan ke saya, supaya bisa diturunkan di bawah demand. apalagi katanya dimasukin pesawat dengan trip banyak??

selama ini saya selalu berusaha untuk nggak memasuki sebuah rute dengan seat melebihi demand, kecuali pada saat mengambil rute itu tidak ada pemain satupun. Kalo ada rute yang demandnya udah penuh, misal 150 demand dengan dua airline yang udah memenuhinya misal A 80 seat dan B 70 seat, masa airline C, D, dst-nya dilarang masuk? Apakah ketika sebuah rute demandnya terisi penuh maka rute tersebut jadi haram untuk dimasuki?
kalo ya, bisa tolong konfirmasikan ke saya juga "peraturan" tersebut, supaya bisa saya aplikasikan ke depannya...

Setahu saya apa yang saya lakukan ini legal. bahkan saya yakin, inilah salah satu tantangan yang dibangun dari game ini. saya kirain di sini kita untuk berkompetisi, bukan untuk dulu2an ngambil rute. kalo iya gitu, rugi dong yang start belakangan..
saya termasuk yang mulai belakangan om, baru satu tahun setelah Rdelta ada saya baru gabung, dan jujur aja semua rute udah diambil alih sama Sibul (bahkan waktu itu sama Kaget Air juga). you left no room for others to grow. satu2nya cara ya bersaing dengan big airline macam Sibul. dan itu yang saya lakukan. saya mengambil resiko dengan cara mengambil pax di rute2 profitable yang kebetulan sudah dipenuhi sama Sibul dan lain2... tapi saya nggak pernah ngelebihin demand yang ada... Paling parah adalah setara jumlah demand-nya aja, itupun persentasenya sedikit..

kalo misalnya anda hanya memasuki 1 flight saja saat melihat sebuah rute sudah terisi penuh, that's your strategy then, mine is different. strategy saya adalah terbang kemanapun di dunia ini sebanyak mungkin, dan saya rasa ini strategi yang wajar. nggak ada sedikitpun keinginan utk menuh2in rute sampe pendapatan minus.. saya bahkan nggak interfere rute2 alliance member saya, dan kapan itu ada airline dari filipina yang bikin deal buat nggak saling ganggu... (saya bahkan nawarin sebuah deal ke Wiyoro Air tapi ternyata ditolak..)

kalo anda ngerasa keganggu sama airline lain yang berusaha merebut pax, thats your problem then. I face my own. Ekor Cincin bahkan lebih banyak rivalnya dibandingkan Sibul karena saya nggak milih2 rute. kalo sebuah destinasi udah saya buka gate-nya, berarti semua hub saya mesti punya flight ke destinasi tersebut. (kecuali rute tsb udh diisi sama anggota alliance saya.)

Ini salah satu contoh strategi saya.

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demand utk CGK-MUC ada 390 pax.
saya cuma ngasih seat 257 (karena jelas di situ ada pemain lain, jd saya mesti ngasih ruang)
Memang saya dapet 100% LF, tapi Sibul tetep mendominasi.

Ini yang ada di dalemnya:

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flight saya memang lebih banyak, 5x seminggu, dibandingkan sibul yg cuma 4x seminggu.
tapi lihat jumlah seat yg ditawarkan, saya cuma 257, sementara sibul 265. itu karena seat capacity aircraft saya lebih kecil dibandingkan punyanya sibul. jadi wajar kalo "trip" nya banyak. tapi kan nggak melebihi demand.

Intinya sih gini aja, kalau mau bicara baik2, semua bisa diselesaikan.
kalo mau beberapa flight saya dihilangkan (flight ya, bukan rute), boleh2 aja, tentunya dengan feedback yang saling menguntungkan.
Di sini kan semuanya berkompetisi. kalo ada larangan soal "rute nggak boleh dimasuki karena udah penuh" then say goodbye to every new airline in the future, coz they're not gonna make it at all.

Saya tunggu daftar rute2 Ekor Cincin di Rdelta yang dianggap mengganggu. nanti kita selesaikan bersama, what is the perfect solution.
Indonesia menjunjung tinggi musyawarah mufakat, betul?

tapi kalo tetep mau saling serang, ya silakan. toh dari awal saya udah nyerang banyak orang, hehe.
*ratapan airline yang telat lahir*
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...(saya bahkan nawarin sebuah deal ke Wiyoro Air tapi ternyata ditolak..)


It was because I wanna play a fair game. All routes are open for every body, anyone can add flight on any route. That's one of the challenge in this game, to be able to compete with other airlines while getting as much profit as we can. I never blame Ekor Cincin or any airline for invading "my" route, because I also do that. What I do is adjusting ticket price and using connecting pax to fill the Load Factor on shared route, it's still profitable, although not as much as if we own the route for my self.

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It was because I wanna play a fair game. All routes are open for every body, anyone can add flight on any route. That's one of the challenge in this game, to be able to compete with other airlines while getting as much profit as we can. I never blame Ekor Cincin or any airline for invading "my" route, because I also do that. What I do is adjusting ticket price and using connecting pax to fill the Load Factor on shared route, it's still profitable, although not as much as if we own the route for my self.


couldnt agree more.
in fact, after i was being criticized for opening flight to "everywhere" I started to lower my Load Factor requirement to 76% (everyone can always read it on my blog) and also reducing the ticket-price-downsizing from "more than ten times per day" to only "twice a day". I used to change my ticket price every 2 or 3 hours if there is someone who has stealing my pax. But because I see myself having enough cash to survive in negative cashflow, now i reduce the frequency of ticket changing to twice a day (at day and at nite) so my competitor can breath.

We, at Ekor Cincin, are asking so much apology to Sibul Airways if our way of surviving is kinda annoying. I personally love to see Indonesia this competitive in Rdelta. It makes the game way more fun and raise the challenge. At least I didnt have to play a boring world again. (You know, I have ever play a world where I'm in the TOP 3 world rank, and there is no Indonesian at all at that time, so I dont have significant rival, and that's kinda boring...)
I love Rdelta.
I love to see Sibul, Dadali, Wiyoro, and other competitive airline from Indonesia battling to conquer Langit Nusantara here.

Happy Playing, then!

by the way, Wiyoro, have you had Jakarta as your hub?
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by the way, Wiyoro, have you had Jakarta as your hub?
:P


I did, and I already invaded CGK-HKG and CGK-NRT routes... :rofl2:

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I love you too Ekor Cincin :ninja2: :ninja2:

We meet at SIN-CGK yah. Hehehe

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kaget demand Y class bisa 0 persen, turunin harga malah profit turun padahal LF 100%, balikin harga ke asal lagi, dan akhirnya normal kembali :lol:
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ok lah klo gitu, tanpa persaingan emang boring main ae ini,

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ada yang unik di BPN - OOL, awalnya cuma ada saya dan sibul, lalu datang airline baru di route ini, tapi ternyata dia cuma buang pesawat doang kayaknya, gak maenin harga :lol:

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mungkin dia ngisi dengan cara aman.. saya juga jadi males buat rebutan disini :|
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I did, and I already invaded CGK-HKG and CGK-NRT routes... :rofl2:


I didnt notice this! wkwkwwk...
Okay..
It isnt my time to lower the price, but I will in the next 2 hours... hehe..
FYI, my DOP dropped 3 millions since Wiyoro start to battle at CGK!
:P
I'll gotcha there soon...

I love you too Ekor Cincin :ninja2: :ninja2:

We meet at SIN-CGK yah. Hehehe


Love you too Cicak Terbang...
SIN-CGK?
No. Every of my hub-to-SIN routes, we're met!

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kaget demand Y class bisa 0 persen, turunin harga malah profit turun padahal LF 100%, balikin harga ke asal lagi, dan akhirnya normal kembali :lol:


Bener2 ajaib nih! 0% tapi bisa dapet 300ribu?? gimana caranya?
ini yang terjadi di Ekor Cincin.. cuma daily flight aja..
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ok lah klo gitu, tanpa persaingan emang boring main ae ini,


sip sip sip..
kalau perlu deal di beberapa rute, bisa diobrolkan nanti..

ada yang unik di BPN - OOL, awalnya cuma ada saya dan sibul, lalu datang airline baru di route ini, tapi ternyata dia cuma buang pesawat doang kayaknya, gak maenin harga :lol:

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mungkin dia ngisi dengan cara aman.. saya juga jadi males buat rebutan disini :|


yakin jadi males rebutan di sini?
saya rebut deh kalo gitu...
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I didnt notice this! wkwkwwk...
Okay..
It isnt my time to lower the price, but I will in the next 2 hours... hehe..
FYI, my DOP dropped 3 millions since Wiyoro start to battle at CGK!
:P
I'll gotcha there soon...



Love you too Cicak Terbang...
SIN-CGK?
No. Every of my hub-to-SIN routes, we're met!



Bener2 ajaib nih! 0% tapi bisa dapet 300ribu?? gimana caranya?
ini yang terjadi di Ekor Cincin.. cuma daily flight aja..
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sip sip sip..
kalau perlu deal di beberapa rute, bisa diobrolkan nanti..



yakin jadi males rebutan di sini?
saya rebut deh kalo gitu...
:P


gak tau, tapi ada bug report kalau pie chart sering error :P

rebut..? situ udah rebutan juga rute ke adelaide <_<
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