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Here, you can tell stories about price wars you have had in the past (or present). You can also put photos. Ill start:

 

 

I was once making about 200,000 a day from FCO-LHR but a spamliner came along and i ended up making only 40,000 a day.


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This is exactly how discrimination of age occurs, not gonna lie. 

 

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Ok can people actually start doing what I asked them to?


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Well, I have just recently in the new R5 experienced a "price war" that is leaving me shaken. I started in Singapore with two great routes, managing $570,000 a day. Then came this guy with more than 5 routes and knocked me from $570,000 down to $321,000. And the world hasn't even started yet! I think I am going to be put out of business soon if I am not careful :/


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Well, I have just recently in the new R5 experienced a "price war" that is leaving me shaken. I started in Singapore with two great routes, managing $570,000 a day. Then came this guy with more than 5 routes and knocked me from $570,000 down to $321,000. And the world hasn't even started yet! I think I am going to be put out of business soon if I am not careful :/



That just sucks. Also thank you for actually saying what I asked. Now I'll try not to spamline u in R5 with Parasite Airways :P
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That just sucks. Also thank you for actually saying what I asked. Now I'll try not to spamline u in R5 with Parasite Airways :P

Thank you for that :D

 

I thought there should be someone to finally continue this thread where you left it :). And thanks for making a thread that has a purpose.


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As for my own experience back in 2005-2006 (yes, ages ago), as the world progressed and people made ever more money, the inevitable torrent of 747-400Ds capacity dumping shorthaul routes, $0 fare dumping etc. occured. We just had way too much cash, was competing for the top 5 spots and well, getting annoyed at competition :P

 

Another purpose was to generate artificial traffic to funnel traffic through the megahub (no change between before and current AE for this one) to enable charging high prices on lucrative routes, no matter the amount of competition.

 

There was also some kind of exploit that involved spamlining and making a fortune out of it, known back in the days as "The Navy Bug", named after the exploiter.

 

 

Well, I have just recently in the new R5 experienced a "price war" that is leaving me shaken. I started in Singapore with two great routes, managing $570,000 a day. Then came this guy with more than 5 routes and knocked me from $570,000 down to $321,000. And the world hasn't even started yet! I think I am going to be put out of business soon if I am not careful :/

 

An option is to spy on other airports to see if there is no competition. KUL and CGK (Jakarta) nearby have good annual traffic numbers for example. Then bankrupt your airline and move bases just before the world is about to begin.


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yeh when im about to join a world, i make a random airline and check airports i would wanna be based at and check how many airlines have bases there


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Wow, my prized route income earning $1.3mill got cut to $750,000 because of just one competitor. It's not even a flood, just a single A340-300 doing the same frequency as my A330-300 on the longhaul.

 

Less than half of demand met.

AE is savage. :D


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Yep, happens all the time :D


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Wow, my prized route income earning $1.3mill got cut to $750,000 because of just one competitor. It's not even a flood, just a single A340-300 doing the same frequency as my A330-300 on the longhaul.

 

Less than half of demand met.

AE is savage. :D

 

If you call a 600k drop in profit savage... then you got a long way to go Pacific ;)


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There's a reason I didn't go to R5 ;)


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Had an argument with another New Zealand-based airline over fares on literally the most meaningless and insignificant route from AKL to NOU, where daily demand was barely 50 and the guy was operating daily A320 (if I could rmb correctly) flights while he complained about me offering such a low price ($85) for that route. Now when I look back at it, it's kinda amusing.  :giggle:


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