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A350 family ranges and seatings S1

Posted by Jireh Garcia on 14 May 2012 - 05:42 AM

Here are the ranges and seating accommodations of the A350 family:

A350-800-Seating:440 instead of 360
Range:9975 miles max instead of 9470 miles max

A350-900-Seating:475 instead of 420
Range:9100 miles max instead of 9030 miles max

A350-900R-Seating:440 instead of 420
Range:11845 miles miles max instead of 10900 miles max

A350-1000-Seating:550 instead of 450
Range:9960 miles max instead of 8560 miles max

And of course,the payload range is greater too.

Sources:http://www.airbus.co...amily/a350-800/
http://www.airbus.co...amily/a350-900/
http://www.airbus.co...mily/a350-1000/
http://en.wikipedia....#Specifications

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The A350 are in competition for the 787 and 777.That's why airbus Made it better than them in range and seats.

I also think that the max pax accomodation must be very close to what wikipedia refers. Unfortunately I didn't find any official data but using the seat configuration from the preliminary data and making some, optical calculations seems that 475 max seats are possible. In the preliminary data configuration we have 267 economy class seats but in a 9 seats per row cfg. Airbus claims that it is possible a 10 seats x row cfg which means we can ad 31 more seats in the middle section of the eco class. Now every row of bussines class can be substituted from 2row eco so the 2 rows of bussi in front of eco + the space before and after gives sufficient space for 5-6 rows of eco + the four seats at the doors corridor so 54-64 more seats and finally the rest of the bussi class space is sufficient for 12 rows of eco class so 120 seats. In total 267+31+64+120=482 seats so 475 seats looks very possible. Of course these are not official data.

I found it in the specifications,and the dimensions and key data.



Would you care to explain exactly where, like giving an actual URL? For example looking at the pages you quote for the -1000 model, it looks like up to 440 passengers and a range of 8400nm if carrying 350 passengers. To give links to actual pages and quotes:

In:
http://www.airbus.co...0/cabin-layout/
"This new-generation jetliner seats a total of 350 passengers in a typical three-class configuration, or up to 440 in a higher-density layout."

In:
http://www.airbus.co...00/performance/
"The A350-1000 is designed to carry 350 passengers in a typical three-class cabin layout over a range of up to 8,400 nm"

In:
http://www.airbus.co...specifications/
"The 325 - 375 seat, 8400 nautical mile A350-1000 is the largest member of the A350 XWB Family."

Another quote:

http://www.airbus.co.../a350xwbfamily/
"All A350 XWB Family members can be configured for higher density layouts of up to 440 seats."

I recently read something about the A350-1000 having he option of adding another emergency exit and thus increasing capacity to 475/550 pax, or at least something a fair bit higher.
can anyone confirm that?

The issue with this is that it needs to have these figures in the type certificate.
That does not exist because the A350 hasn't flown yet.

The A350 is one of the planes added by mistake, because it hasnt flown yet and the data may change. This is why we are reluctant to add the 737Max/A320NEO, because no figures are fully out there yet and they are subject to change.

On top of that, AE use the max seating allowed by the Type certificate, not the Manufacturer's numbers. Those numbers are for marketing guys. To get real numbers, you need to read technical manuals and type certificates.

In Airline Empires the FAA emergency exit limit describes the seating capacity -> cabin space -> and the actual size of an aircraft. Most of the cases this data is correct to use for comparison between different aircrafts.

 

In the real world manufacturers has different max. seat certification strategies for different aircrafts, which can cause problems with this method.

 

Simple theoretical example:

-Aircraft A intended for medium range flights:

cabin size: 100%

FAA exit limit: 350

 

-Aircraft B intended to use for ultra long range flights:

cabin size: 120%

FAA exit limit: 300

 

Real world example:

A340-300

Max seats in AE: 440

Cabin lenght: 50,35 m

Cabin width: 5,28 m

 

A340-500 (this aircraft intended for ultra long range flights)

Max seats in AE: 375

Cabin lenght: 53,56 m

Cabin width: 5,28 m

 

-FAA exit limit determines the max. passenger capacity, but not always the actual cabin size of an aircraft.

 

This problem was described here in detail with actual cabin space data, and a possible solution:

http://www.airline-e...urations-in-ae/

To avoid this seating capacity problem, AE 4.0 hopefully will use actual cabin space data.



Please do not revive very old bug trackers :P thank you






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