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[Skyrock]

Hey,

I saw that the A340-200 has incorrect properties. E.g its maximum pax capacity is only around 269 passengers and not 292. Its highly unlikely that there are only 3 pax less in shorter version than in the -300. Besides, the production ended in 2003 and not in 2009.

[Conor]

post it in the bug tracker please not here

[9M-TKS]

post it in the bug tracker please not here

It's not a bug, it's like many other models with incorrect data, but has been largely ignored.

[h3llr4iser]

Hey,

I saw that the A340-200 has incorrect properties. E.g its maximum pax capacity is only around 269 passengers and not 292. Its highly unlikely that there are only 3 pax less in shorter version than in the -300. Besides, the production ended in 2003 and not in 2009.

The data for the A330/A340 family is incorrect indeed - but the figure is not the one you mention. The A340 maximum pax capacity is 375 for both the -200 and the -300, with the first able to accommodate up to 420 pax if 4 Type-A doors are installed, the latter able to go up to 440, per EASA certification: http://www.easa.eu.i...20-21102010.pdf

Of course, keeping 440 people crammed in Ryanair-style "seats" for 10+ hours would pose a problem: don't feed them more than 1 single peanut or they won't fit in the space anymore!

The game lists the "typical 2-classes configuration" for the A332, A333 (and this is wrong too, since it should be 335) and A342, while the A343's listed capacity is the "Typical 3-classes configuration". The figures are wrong for the -500 and -600 variants too.

Curiously, other widebodies such as the 767 have the maximum certification capacities listed correctly (255 for the 762, 350 for the 763 and 375 for the 764).

Capacity charts
(Aircraft type: correct figure(with additional doors) / in game figure)

A330-200: 375(406) / 281
A330-300: 375(440) / 350
A340-200: 375(420) / 292
A340-300: 375(440) / 295
A340-500: 375 / 372
A340-600: 440 / 429

B767-200: 255 / 255
B767-300: 350 / 350
B767-400: 375 / 375

B777-200: 440 / 440
B777-300: 550 / 550

Hope they'll fix it at some point since this makes some aircrafts, namely the A340, even less viable than they are in reality.

You can find all the data you'd like to have here: http://www.easa.eu.int/

[jleonnn]

This data varies from airline to airline. Different airlines have different seating plans and different seats, resulting in different numbers of seats. Take the A380 for example- A Singapore Airlines A380 seats 409 people in a 3 class config. while a Korean Air A380 seats 407. Besides, in most games the data is always around that range but is hardly 100% correct.

[Yuxi]

In the game we use the max certified seating capacity to allow maximum flexibility.

[9M-TKS]

Isn't the A333 max seating originally 440? How're you going to add "extra doors"?

[sviridovt]

I think you should keep the seating limits the same, and here is why:

Airbus Long Range planes are certified to carry more passengers then what you would generically put into an airplane (unless you are Michael O Leary who would shove as many people as possible into each plane ). With that said, Boeing planes are usually certified to fly the number of passengers that is closer to what airlines would put into an aircraft. Now, the way AE works (or at least thats how I think it works) is that legroom is determined by a percent of capacity, So that means that if you put real values for Airbus LR planes then you would have Airbuses carrying the amounts of passengers who will think that legroom is good, while if it was real, they would be mad (maybe not with legroom but with width for sure). Airbus LR planes are capable of using the 3-3-3 configuration, however normally A330/A340 have the 2-4-2 configuration, and if airlines are doing that, that means having the 3-3-3 configuration would really upset the passengers. I was on a A330 flight a couple of years ago with NWA, they, like most airlines have the 2-4-2 configuration, and it didnt feel like any more spacious seat then a normal Boeing economy seat. So I say keep the passenger numbers, or have some sort of a way to determine "Passenger Density". Because without these, airlines would be able to have slightly less seats then absolute max, but still more seats then reality, and still get good reputation plus all of the benefits (like fuel saving) that Airbus planes have to offer.

[sviridovt]

also I think this should be moved to general discussion area