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[mash]

hey all!

Thank to the dev team for the beta version, loving it!

one thing im facing is the time it takes to set up IFS. given the concept of different IFS depending on range of flights, the various IFS options, prices, quality, costs, numerous catering options again tied up with price, quality and costs and finally assigning them to different classes, etc etc i think theres too much micro management involved. Just wondering will it make the concept boring to deal with after some time of game play and managing huge fleets and large route networks. I suggest the IFS setting to be a little more simpler. Im not against the IFS, its a wonderful thing which i myself suggested on the forum previously and it makes the game more realistic.

One thing i can suggest is option for breakfast, dinner, lunch and snacks can be tied up with timetabling once introduced..

nevertheless just my two cents!

cheers

[Yuxi]

one thing im facing is the time it takes to set up IFS. given the concept of different IFS depending on range of flights, the various IFS options, prices, quality, costs, numerous catering options again tied up with price, quality and costs and finally assigning them to different classes, etc etc i think theres too much micro management involved. Just wondering will it make the concept boring to deal with after some time of game play and managing huge fleets and large route networks. I suggest the IFS setting to be a little more simpler. Im not against the IFS, its a wonderful thing which i myself suggested on the forum previously and it makes the game more realistic.

Some people are always asking for more customization options (and complaining we can't change the seat material) while others prefer not to micromanage as much. I'm in the latter group and have never been enthusiastic about the micro details of IFS (which is why un1 manages that and not me), but it doesn't hurt to have the options available for people who do want to play with them.

To simplify things you can create just 2-3 IFS schemes (one for each class) and apply them to all routes and ignore the distance customizations.

[adityapratama]

i do like micromanagement but i love something simple at the same time. i dont use many IFS configuration, instead i used one simple IFS setting for all classes and, just like Yuxi said, ignoring the distance customizations.

it depends on the mood though wether i'll used the micromanagement-style or simple-style gameplan. hey, this game is about fun! if micromanagement-style is fun for you, then this should do the work! but if you like a simpler gameplay style, just forget that stuff!

after all, it's a game for all!

[mash]

i do like micromanagement but i love something simple at the same time.

i second you on that!

[Yuxi]

Pre-made/default IFS schemes perhaps?

[adityapratama]

Pre-made/default IFS schemes perhaps?

[ChemicalReaper]

Pre-made/default IFS schemes perhaps?

That's what I was actually about to suggest. The default ones are just the basics, based on what you'd reasonably expect on a flight.

Something like this could be the default options:
'Short Range IFS': free snacks (Level 1 @ $0.75/passenger) and free newspapers ($0.95/passenger)
'Medium Range IFS': free snacks (Level 1 or 2), free reading material, free lunch (Level 1)
'Long Range IFS': free snacks (Level 2 or 3), free reading material, free pillows and/or blankets, free dinner

For the long range flights, you're losing maybe $40-50 per passenger, but that should be fine until there starts to be more competition: what's $40 per person if they're paying $1200/ticket?

[un1]

Pre-made/default IFS schemes perhaps?

Have fun implementing it.

My preference:
3 configs, 1 for Y, C and F. 3 stars for Y 4 for C and 5 for F. Set them all to the route defaults, ignore IFS for the rest of the game.

[berubium]

How do we know which meal is appropriate to use when we don't have timetabling?

[BritAbroad]

I have to say I like it. But then I'm a sucker for admin!

[un1]

How do we know which meal is appropriate to use when we don't have timetabling?

It randomly chooses a meal(s) depending on flying time.

[berubium]

It randomly chooses a meal(s) depending on flying time.

Thanks for the clarification.

[adityapratama]

i never charged passangers for the IFS, just like Reaper said, even losing up to $100 is fine as long as you have $1000 ticket price. think about it as a part of marketing program.

[Yuxi]

i never charged passangers for the IFS, just like Reaper said, even losing up to $100 is fine as long as you have $1000 ticket price. think about it as a part of marketing program.

If only real airlines think like that

[adityapratama]

If only real airlines think like that

real airlines only think about money

hey Yuxi, how long the beta will be paused?

[Yuxi]

real airlines businesses only think about money

[adityapratama]

[dazwalsh]

i personally love the IFS and reckon its the best feature of 3.1 along with the various reputation levels. IFS takes a few minutes to setup a couple of configurations for short haul and long haul, then just use the auto assign to distance feature and you never have to bother with it again.

the main advantage of the IFS is to somewhat chose what type of airline you operate, low cost or high service.

[joflo]

How are the per flight costs calculated? And when are those one-time-costs charged?

[skyasia]

On top of the regular meal served, there should be column for "special meals". Airlines which can serve special meal usually has higher reputation while LCC usually don't bother with this.
Also, in the current regular meal option, there are 5 choices of quality. Some do have a big gap in between them. What I want to suggest is to reduce the quality option, but add the variation; e.g. between regular meal and vegetarian meal. (so for example, there will still be 5 options but consist of 3 quality of regular meal and 2-option for vegetarian meal).
P.S. Special meals can be separated from vegetarian meals nowadays in the sense that special meals are described as special meal due to religious requirement (e.g. Halal, Kosher, Hindu meal, etc) and special meal due to diet requirement (e.g. low fat, low sodium, high fibre, etc).