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After becoming bancrupt earlier this year Virgin Atlantic is back and stronger than ever. 2 new Airbus A380 and 2 A319-100, 1 off them has been delivered. We now fly from Manchester, are main Hub, were we will soon be building a 10 to 100 gate terminal depending on how money is. The new Airbus A380 we hope to flying to japan or china. I would to ask were can the A380 fly too in AE8. Also we fly all the below:
With a fleet of:
Plane Fleet size On order
Airbus A319-100 9 1
Airbus A380-800 2
ATR ATR-42-200 1
Boeing 747-100 2
Bombardier Q400 1
FleetWide 13 3
We chosse small A319-100 as they can fly short and over the atlantic and make alot of profit. Are 2 boeing 747-100 fly to Las vegas and Boston.
I would like to ask were can the new Airbus A380-800 Land and Take off From
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Started by Virgin Atlantic, Oct 24 2010 11:58 AM
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 12:26 PM
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I see you've got a lot of routes from Manchester... thank you for telling me your routes so I can now go and make those routes 10xdaily 744s with my airline. Thanks!
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 03:40 PM
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Why do you feel the need. You are nearly top of the rankings and you feel the need to copy my routes. So you can kick an airline which is at 151 in the rankings you are a horrible person...
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 03:47 PM
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I've learnt from that past; never should you let an airline develop at one of your hubs, as it will only continue to grow until it starts to threaten you. I found that out with my current rival at MAN, ifly. I should have dealt with him early on, and I didn't, and hence I'm now paying the price for it.
If I were you though, I'd stay out of the UK market; it's certainly a tricky one to handle.
And by the way, what matters to me is market share. I couldn't give a damn if I was top or bottom of the rankings, what I want it to dominate my four hubs, and serve as the UK's flag carrier. But don't worry, I don't worry, I don't really care what people like you think of me.
If I were you though, I'd stay out of the UK market; it's certainly a tricky one to handle.
And by the way, what matters to me is market share. I couldn't give a damn if I was top or bottom of the rankings, what I want it to dominate my four hubs, and serve as the UK's flag carrier. But don't worry, I don't worry, I don't really care what people like you think of me.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 06:35 PM
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Ok now we have made each other i too hate Ifly and i would like to, if you would accept, kick him out of the Man market. Beacuse of him i had to close my MAN to LAS which was a real shame...
Do you accept
Do you accept
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 08:15 PM
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Well, if you're talking about airline co-operation between us both, I don't see why we can't come to some agreement. However, I don't really see any benefits of doing so.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:26 PM
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:44 PM
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I see you've got a lot of routes from Manchester... thank you for telling me your routes so I can now go and make those routes 10xdaily 744s with my airline. Thanks!
Why do you feel the need. You are nearly top of the rankings and you feel the need to copy my routes. So you can kick an airline which is at 151 in the rankings you are a horrible person...
Speed Bird is wrong. Virgin is right. And Virgin, if you happen to see me (America East Airlines) on any of your routes, just contact me and I'll come off of them (I'll be happy to do this for you until your airline hits a good development stage). And if you want help on decideing where to fly your 380s I'll be happy to help (I have 30+ A380s).
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:49 PM
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Speed Bird is wrong. Virgin is right. And Virgin, if you happen to see me (America East Airlines) on any of your routes, just contact me and I'll come off of them (I'll be happy to do this for you until your airline hits a good development stage). And if you want help on decideing where to fly your 380s I'll be happy to help (I have 30+ A380s).
How am I wrong? I can open whatever route I like.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:04 PM
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How am I wrong? I can open whatever route I like.
In that sense, you're not wrong, but the deliberate antagonism of a developing airline and its owner and the use of sarcasm is uncalled for.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:19 PM
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I assume you're joking, because your being quite pathetic. I've explained my reasoning already for doing what I've done, and if you don't like it, go and tell someone who cares.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:35 PM
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I assume you're joking, because your being quite pathetic. I've explained my reasoning already for doing what I've done, and if you don't like it, go and tell someone who cares.
Certainly not joking. I understand that you wish to expand your market share at your hubs, which you stated earlier. I also understand that you aren't as interested in your overall ranking, which you also stated earlier. However, being rude, saying basically "Thanks for telling me where you fly. Now I'm going to monopolize those routes and push you off of them." (Your exact words are: I see you've got a lot of routes from Manchester... thank you for telling me your routes so I can now go and make those routes 10xdaily 744s with my airline. Thanks!). You have a half-dozen airlines in AE8 in which you can monopolize your market enough. This rude behavior towards developing members, or any member at all, is unnecessary and uncalled for.
Now, if Virgin Atlantic was in the Top 10 rankings, it would be a challenger to both you (at #5) and me (at #7). My opinion would be different in that case. But here, the airline is not challenging you in any way at its current status with its smaller fleet, smaller network and lower valuation. Therefore it's unnecessary for you to be antagonistic towards him.
I understand that you don't understand that members like Virgin and me don't have feelings. But we do, and acting in this incredibly rude manner hurts them, and obviously gives you pleasure (as evidenced by your constant behavior in this manner).
Thank you for reading this, and I hope you consider your effect on others before you next comment on a post.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:44 PM
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Hahahahahaha... That was hilarious mate!
Seriously, despite the fact I got a large amount of pleasure from reading that, I think you're mad. My comments have not been rude at all; sarcastic yes, but most certainly not rude. If I'm being honest, I can't be bothered to argue with you, because neither of us are going to budge, and then Yuxi will come in and say shut up. So, to cut it short, I've learnt my lessons from the past; getting rid of Virgin now is the best way to save me pain later.
That's enough now. If you wish to take this further, send me a PM, or send a message to a dev if you feel my behaviour is not appropriate.
Seriously, despite the fact I got a large amount of pleasure from reading that, I think you're mad. My comments have not been rude at all; sarcastic yes, but most certainly not rude. If I'm being honest, I can't be bothered to argue with you, because neither of us are going to budge, and then Yuxi will come in and say shut up. So, to cut it short, I've learnt my lessons from the past; getting rid of Virgin now is the best way to save me pain later.
That's enough now. If you wish to take this further, send me a PM, or send a message to a dev if you feel my behaviour is not appropriate.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:11 PM
Now I'm not going to say anything about this argument but I do want to prove a point...
That is 100% incorrect. In AE8 I have an airline at rank #12, if I were in the US market I could probably be a very good challenger to you. Valuation has absolutely nothing to do with the airlines strength, what if the airline only has leased aircraft and doesnt have much cash because he has 10,000 leased aircraft on order thus giving that airline a really low valuation? So really in the end it all depends who has more dop and idle aircraft, not valuation. In this case I dont have a greater DOP than you,but because I have enough cash stocked up (I'm a saver at heart 
) I can probably order more aircraft (I just looked you have more cash then me ) and I have 30% of my fleet idle. Since this is information that you cannot find out, the rankings have absolutely no use in taking down airlines.
Now, if Virgin Atlantic was in the Top 10 rankings, it would be a challenger to both you (at #5) and me (at #7).
That is 100% incorrect. In AE8 I have an airline at rank #12, if I were in the US market I could probably be a very good challenger to you. Valuation has absolutely nothing to do with the airlines strength, what if the airline only has leased aircraft and doesnt have much cash because he has 10,000 leased aircraft on order thus giving that airline a really low valuation? So really in the end it all depends who has more dop and idle aircraft, not valuation. In this case I dont have a greater DOP than you,
) I can probably order more aircraft ) and I have 30% of my fleet idle. Since this is information that you cannot find out, the rankings have absolutely no use in taking down airlines.
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 05:14 PM
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 05:16 PM
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