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[RmTrice]

My dad was at one of his managers conferences in MSP and Northwest's CEO brought up the topic of a possibly merger or buyout of Continental. What do you guys think would result from that?

Personally I think NW would get rid of all the older boeing 737s and 767s, keep the new planes such as the 737NGs and the 777s, and also get rid of the 757s since they are a different engine type than the PW engines Northwest has on their 57s.

[Sunshine Airways CEO]

i think they'll replace their A32X's with DC-9-30s

[drv4truk]

Why? COA only has 4 aircraft types and they are all Boeing.
They code share enough flights already that it might not matter, as long as they continue the same level of service and destinations that each airline already serves. It could be a very interesting move.

[Sunshine Airways CEO]

Fleetwise, they only have two aircraft in common, the 757-200 and 757-300 but CO uses RR engines and NW uses the PWs. Other than the 787, the rest is different

CO's fleet:
737-300, -500
737-700, -800, -900
757-200, -300
767-200ER, -400ER
777-200ER

NW fleet:
DC-9-30, -40, -50
DC-10-30
747-200, -400
757-200, -300
A319, A320
A330-200, -300

[Edited on 6/4/2005 by S.A. 13]

[drv4truk]

Originally posted by S.A. 13
i think they'll replace their A32X's with DC-9-30s

How about sell the A32X's to America West and replace them with B737's?

You forgot the A330-200 and 300.

If anything I could see them continue to phase out the B747 and DC-10's. If there is a merger I wonder what would be chosen to replace these.

[Sunshine Airways CEO]

oops, typo. never knew the A320-300 existed

[doug_Or]

What older 767s? The 762s are the newest in world, and the 764s aren't exactly old.

[Chicken]

Sorry to be cynical, but I think this was done to maniuplate the stock price.

[Atlantic_Air]

Originally posted by doug_Or
What older 767s? The 762s are the newest in world, and the 764s aren't exactly old.

uhm actually the 762's are almost 10 years old now.

okay northwest would never merge with continental and northwest is defenintly in no financial peak that it has enough money to buy out continental.
A- Continental is the only airline that operates to over 25 destinations in Europe, and Northwest operates to about 6 (my estimante). Newark is such a strong hub for the airline, it makes them plenty of money, making the price for Continental go higher.
B- Northwest has been recently not earning so much money out of there Memphis hub (again, my estimante (sp?)). If they did merge, the fleets would run over eachother, and they would have many frequencies and duplicate routes.


later

[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Atlantic_Air]

[ithboy]

notice how CO is making money and NW isn't. The buyout would be the other way around

[drv4truk]

Originally posted by Atlantic_Air
A- Continental is the only airline that operates to over 25 destinations in Europe, and Northwest operates to about 6 (my estimante). Newark is such a strong hub for the airline, it makes them plenty of money, making the price for Continental go higher.
B- Northwest has been recently not earning so much money out of there Memphis hub (again, my estimante (sp?)). If they did merge, the fleets would run over eachother, and they would have many frequencies and duplicate routes.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Atlantic_Air]

COA may be stronger in Europe, but NWA is stronger in Asia. The US routes can be split and merged and improved upon no problems. It would just mean having less aircraft and crews.

[Atlantic_Air]

Originally posted by drv4truk

Originally posted by Atlantic_Air
A- Continental is the only airline that operates to over 25 destinations in Europe, and Northwest operates to about 6 (my estimante). Newark is such a strong hub for the airline, it makes them plenty of money, making the price for Continental go higher.
B- Northwest has been recently not earning so much money out of there Memphis hub (again, my estimante (sp?)). If they did merge, the fleets would run over eachother, and they would have many frequencies and duplicate routes.
[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Atlantic_Air]

COA may be stronger in Europe, but NWA is stronger in Asia. The US routes can be split and merged and improved upon no problems. It would just mean having less aircraft and crews.

Ah, are we forgetting Continental Micronesia now? It operates out of Guam to many other destinations in Asia.

Continental will also be the only airline to operate non-stop from the United States to Beijing (June 2005) and Shanghai (2006), as well. Pretty evenly matched in Asia, as well.

[Edited on 6/7/2005 by Atlantic_Air]

[Atlantic_Air]

i stand correct.

[wdleiser]

COA aint makin money either.

NWA dominates COA in Asia. No question. COA flies to many small destinations in Europe with 757's. They don't overlap on many routes either with NWA.