10 replies to this topic

[grantguo]

I don't know if anyone has encountered this problem.

I have some routes that suddenly drops to the red.

Update or frequency does not always help.
But I find out that close the route and re-create the same route will help get
the LF back.

Some clues on why is that?

[Air S]

Same for me

[lurch]

David!!! Would it be possible to run a recalculation for Sim3. I am noticing the same thing for closing and reopening routes. (That is, if you think it will help)

[Glennos]

This happend in Sim 2 as well , not sure what it's like now as I have not logged in in a while.

[tom14cat14]

Same for me. I am getting to the point where i might stop because i have a lot of routes that will generate 400,000 a day and then by the next day i am -30,000 a day. I close and reopen and it is back to 400,000 if i update i stay at neg some number. It is getting annoying when you have over 70 aircraft and they start loosing tons of money but i can close and reopen and i am good again. Same thing with the market research it will tell me i will make 90,000 and then i end up making -30,000 does it not take into count the competition the first calculation? sorry if i sound like i am complaining too much but it is frustrating and i am sitting in a hotel on day one of 4 in the middle of nowhere. (RST)

[Spenser]

Same for me. I am getting to the point where i might stop because i have a lot of routes that will generate 400,000 a day and then by the next day i am -30,000 a day. I close and reopen and it is back to 400,000 if i update i stay at neg some number. It is getting annoying when you have over 70 aircraft and they start loosing tons of money but i can close and reopen and i am good again. Same thing with the market research it will tell me i will make 90,000 and then i end up making -30,000 does it not take into count the competition the first calculation? sorry if i sound like i am complaining too much but it is frustrating and i am sitting in a hotel on day one of 4 in the middle of nowhere. (RST)

And what rote is that Man the most I can get is 200,000.

[tom14cat14]

lol, They are my good routes. Well sometimes they are until they are -70k. I am here in RST for the second night so i have way to much time to do nothing so i will continue to put up with this frustrating route income structure in sim 3 and market research.

[DirtyOne]

Not sure if other strange thing is directly related to the one discussed above, but anyway it is from the same pool:
I used to fly DC-9-50 on the route (2 freq) then profit went down from some 30k to very low level, I decided to change aircraft to Avro or BAe146, and without ticket price change the load factor immediately dropped to nil and route went into deep deep red. What is more strange, when I immediately put DC-9 back (again without changing ticekt price) route become double more profitable than it ever was (close to 70k). Is there any logic behind it?

I already read about different bugs in route load factor and profit estimation made by system, but I'm wondering about autopricing. Autopricing not works for me in most cases, but anyway I'm wondering about the logic. When I'm entering the route with just one competitor who is autopriced, system sometimes dropping competitior's fare to below-the-cost level, ie route will not be profitable for him even with 100% LF, is that how it is designed?

[Glennos]

This has always been a bug when swapping planes and an ideal way to double your profits. If you swap a plane that has roughly the same amount of seats there is no problem.I have campaigned to have that plane swapping taken out no end of times but the developers think it is needed. Anyway, it works differently in the new version so you cannot gain an advantage by swapping.

The autopricing is shot , don't work , US etc etc ... I would not even bother using that if I was you. Just manually price and swap your planes to make money. Everyone else is doing it ;-)

Not sure if other strange thing is directly related to the one discussed above, but anyway it is from the same pool:
I used to fly DC-9-50 on the route (2 freq) then profit went down from some 30k to very low level, I decided to change aircraft to Avro or BAe146, and without ticket price change the load factor immediately dropped to nil and route went into deep deep red. What is more strange, when I immediately put DC-9 back (again without changing ticekt price) route become double more profitable than it ever was (close to 70k). Is there any logic behind it?

I already read about different bugs in route load factor and profit estimation made by system, but I'm wondering about autopricing. Autopricing not works for me in most cases, but anyway I'm wondering about the logic. When I'm entering the route with just one competitor who is autopriced, system sometimes dropping competitior's fare to below-the-cost level, ie route will not be profitable for him even with 100% LF, is that how it is designed?

[grantguo]

This is so important that it should be written in the WIKI/TOTURIAL/STICY POST
otherwise, beginner will have a hard time to figure it out.

The autopricing is shot , don't work , US etc etc ... I would not even bother using that if I was you. Just manually price and swap your planes to make money. Everyone else is doing it ;-)

[DirtyOne]

I cannot reproduce profit boost effect by changing planes any longer, could you advise how to do it step by step and what factors I should consider? Thanks!