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[Mdlewry]

A319-100 is 4254 NM Range and really annoys me that if it was 4354 that it would be able to fly to the East Coast of The USA; Like Orlando. Why would people want to pay $61,500,000 more just so they can fly that exact same route with an A300-600R with an extra 546 NM range? Is there anyway possible we can change this so that smaller airlines can Expand to the US and not have to pay through the nose for it?:airplane:

Sorry Guys i meant A319 not A310. Lol

[Spenser]

A310-100 is 4254 NM Range and really annoys me that if it was 4354 that it would be able to fly to the East Coast of The USA; Like Orlando. Why would people want to pay $61,500,000 more just so they can fly that exact same route with an A300-600R with an extra 546 NM range? Is there anyway possible we can change this so that smaller airlines can Expand to the US and not have to pay through the nose for it?:airplane:

Just save a little extra for a 737, that's my opinion. Remember in real life the only airlines that fly the A320 series to the east coast are modified for charters.

[Glennos]

I don't know what you using them planes for anyway! There are many more planes available that are more economical and cheaper than the a310.

But I guess that's why we have smaller airlines in this game , their business decisions are different than larger airlines ;-)

[Conor]

The A310 is going to cost twice as much to run as an A319/A330

[Maestro69]

Your wasting your time with the A310s or A300s unless its for cargo (not in the game, so )

You should of bought the A319 and flown it US transcon, due it to its lower operation and fuel costs, and you would probably make more money on the route from flying that aircraft.

[FlyHelsinki]

That may be true, but the A310 is mostly used for high demand 2 - 7hr flights in the real world.

[Glennos]

That may be true, but the A310 is mostly used for high demand 2 - 7hr flights in the real world.

This is not the real world otherwise you would not find one airline with 14 a333's on one route You need to look at what the top players are doing and follow suit otherwise you wont make money......

[travelhouse]

This is not the real world otherwise you would not find one airline with 14 a333's on one route You need to look at what the top players are doing and follow suit otherwise you wont make money......

It is not wise to seek and ask developers to limit the number of seats within ONE route?

Example:

HND - CDG

Limit the seats one airline can have to 1,000 - this means they can place 1 x A380 and 2 x A330.

Sure it is not open sky's but the way the LF is structured, the more you place within ONE single route the higher the ticket price goes up, so the new addition player wanting to enter the route has no chance obtaining a fair ticket price.

In world terms, if you have a ticket price from HND to CDG at $2,000 a ticket, the more airlines that enter that route should bring down the ticket price, not rise from $2,000 to $3,000, Singapore Airlines would love to grab their entire fleet and place it on that route if they was guaranteed to get more revenue, but in world terms this is not so.

Just hope David in his LF restructure takes note of such ticket rises.

[Conor]

Besides why is the post called A319-100 when the topic is on A310s??

[Glennos]

It is not wise to seek and ask developers to limit the number of seats within ONE route?

Example:

HND - CDG

Limit the seats one airline can have to 1,000 - this means they can place 1 x A380 and 2 x A330.

Sure it is not open sky's but the way the LF is structured, the more you place within ONE single route the higher the ticket price goes up, so the new addition player wanting to enter the route has no chance obtaining a fair ticket price.

In world terms, if you have a ticket price from HND to CDG at $2,000 a ticket, the more airlines that enter that route should bring down the ticket price, not rise from $2,000 to $3,000, Singapore Airlines would love to grab their entire fleet and place it on that route if they was guaranteed to get more revenue, but in world terms this is not so.

Just hope David in his LF restructure takes note of such ticket rises.

I'm not asking them to limit anything? All I mentioned was that in real life that would not happen. They can put 1000 planes on there for all I care, I'll just carry on doing what I'm doing and earning 4x more what they are earning ;-)

In fact I am reasonably happy with the LF at the moment. I don't have to babysit my routes, the routes can stand up to alot of competition without crashing. It pretty good!

[travelhouse]

In fact I am reasonably happy with the LF at the moment. I don't have to babysit my routes, the routes can stand up to alot of competition without crashing. It pretty good!

Yes thats true, however, soon the game server will not be able to cope with this massive explosion in routes like AE year 3 comming up and we have some 58,000 + routes up and running, the LF is coping well, but soon we will be faced with a reset and some alterations to make it playable will be needed.

Getting off topic here so will let this go back to its original post....

[Maestro69]

In world terms, if you have a ticket price from HND to CDG at $2,000 a ticket, the more airlines that enter that route should bring down the ticket price, not rise from $2,000 to $3,000, Singapore Airlines would love to grab their entire fleet and place it on that route if they was guaranteed to get more revenue, but in world terms this is not so.

A strong hub will always allow for an airline to put the prices where they wish, considering the connections and flights the offer from that hub. Of course, they will in real life offer special offers on a monthly basis to stimulus more demand.

Qantas flies to LAX from 3 australian cities 4-5 dailies and they prices are a bit more expensive, because:
1. they onboard product is still better than United, and V-Australia and Delta
2. They have moved from a B747-400 to the A380 to provide more capacity.

Now, the new AE LF needs to adapt to an airline that:
1. Has a strong hub (by that i mean, lots of connecting flights to multiple destinations across the region)
2. Has the capacity into the hub that allows for passengers to connect
3. A Class layout that will regenerate revenue. (another thing that is needed!)

Thats all i gotta say.

[Mdlewry]

i actually meant the A319 not a310. lol

[gba222]

Slightly off topic - but actually, I've found the A300 to be a very good money-spinner. Chiefly because its quite quick to turn-around as widebodies go, so I've been using them to good effect.

Just about every aircraft in this game has a certain niche - whether its defined by operating costs, range, speed, turnaround time or even purchasing price.

[Mdlewry]

yes but what im saying is can they add an extra 56-100 NM range to the A319-100 in sim2?

[Glennos]

yes but what im saying is can they add an extra 56-100 NM range to the A319-100 in sim2?

Yes they can but I can't see them adding range to planes to suit peoples needs. It's the other way round. You need to buy planes that suit your needs and can fly your routes you want.

Otherwise I could say I want another 500NM range on the a333 or while your at it another 1000NM range on the 753 etc etc

[paliair]

If I am not mistaken this is a Airline MANAGEMENT game and YOU need to manage your airline to success, with that come the choices to buy the A/C that fits your plans not adjust the A/C specs. With that said if a certain A/C does not have the range or seats for that matter to accomplish the plan you have set then you need to purchase the one that will. Sorry not trying to be mean but you need to MANAGE your airline.

[Mdlewry]

well i am trying to, but at $185,947 a day, im not going to make enough anytime soon to get 96 Million for a plane and cover my gate charges too am i? That's why i asked could they change it a little, because when you dont have that kind of money and you want to start transatlantic routes, you need a fair bit of money to get a plane that can cope with that mileage and when you only have 1 Bombardier Q400, you need alot more money, Don't you, Especially when you only at rank 398 and started playing again after the reset, where i was at at least Rank 185.

[Glennos]

well i am trying to, but at $185,947 a day, im not going to make enough anytime soon to get 96 Million for a plane and cover my gate charges too am i? That's why i asked could they change it a little, because when you dont have that kind of money and you want to start transatlantic routes, you need a fair bit of money to get a plane that can cope with that mileage and when you only have 1 Bombardier Q400, you need alot more money, Don't you, Especially when you only at rank 398 and started playing again after the reset, where i was at at least Rank 185.

You don't need big planes to make money. Here is what my Saabs are making.....

2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 5 0 $18,500,000 $178,407
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 3 0 $18,500,000 $175,410
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 2 0 $18,500,000 $221,404
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 2 0 $18,500,000 $178,021
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 0 $18,500,000 $276,786
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 0 $18,500,000 $271,268
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 0 $18,500,000 $146,890
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 1 $17,020,000 $204,679
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 0 $18,500,000 $265,534
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 1 $17,020,000 $254,940
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 0 $18,500,000 $288,092
2000 2 Rolls-Royce AE2100A 1 0 $18,500,000 $253,561

[alex_nl]

The transatlantic market isn't very profitable this round. You should be looking more at regional My q 400 make at least 250 000 a day. just a tip