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[airline55]

www.newsmax.com:

Rep. Curt Weldon, who broke the Able Danger story last year revealing that military intelligence had identified lead hijacker Mohamed Atta as a terrorist threat before the 9/11 attacks, now says that Osama bin Laden has died.

Weldon made the stunning claim during an interview Wednesday with the Philadelphia Inquirer, which reported: "Weldon is making explosive new allegations. He says a high-level source has told him that terrorist leader Osama bin Laden has died in Iran, where he has been in hiding."

Weldon cited as his source an Iranian exile code-named Ali, telling the paper: "Ali's told me that Osama bin Laden is dead. He died in Iran."


Weldon said he last spoke to Ali three weeks ago. The Iranian exile was a prominent source for his 2005 book, "Countdown to Terror." The book also contained the first mention of the Able Danger data mining operation.

The Pennsylvania Republican has long alleged that bin Laden has been using Iran for sanctuary.


In June last year, Weldon said in a TV interview: "I'm confident that I know for sure that [bin Laden] has been in and out of Iran ... Two years ago, he was in the southern town of Ladis, 10 kilometers inside the Pakistan border. I also know that earlier this year, he had a meeting with al-Zarqawi in Tehran ...

"If you look at the recent comments coming out of both the CIA and some of our military generals in theater, they're now acknowledging the same thing that I've been saying - that in fact, he's been in and out of Iran.

He also went on to say that "we will not be able to prove it until we get him." (well, I guess he means his body). I am working to find a second source.

[drv4truk]

www.newsmax.com:
The Pennsylvania Republican has long alleged that bin Laden has been using Iran for sanctuary.

That part I don't doubt. But I doubt anyone else will want to say for sure whether OBL is dead until there is definitive proof. Like his body being found.

[hpscot08]

Though it is doubtful that the information of his death would leave the high levels inside of the organization because of the reprocusions, and possible new power plays amongst the leaders.

[number1air]

Though it is doubtful that the information of his death would leave the high levels inside of the organization because of the reprocusions, and possible new power plays amongst the leaders.

yeah pure crap report no international news covereage is claiming this report BBC say doubtful

[airline55]

As I said, I am working to find a second source. However, I would not exactly call the BBC a great source.

and hpsoct, well, this would be true if he was found dead in a cave in Pakistan, but if he managed to get into Iran, I doubt that the gov of Iran would not know, and an Informant in the Iran gov. is possible, particularly if it is part of the reformist wing, which is slightly more U.S.- friendly than the hardliners.

[HADC10]

However, I would not exactly call the BBC a great source.

Huh? The BBC is considered to be the gold standard in journalism. It's not suspect to the sensationalism for ads that drives CNN, FOX, MSNBC, the networks, etc.

[airline55]

well, it is a reliable network, but it has a not-so-hidden bias (as do most American networks) but, as none of the U.S. networks picked it up, I will agree that details are sketcky.

[number1air]

well, it is a reliable network, but it has a not-so-hidden bias (as do most American networks) but, as none of the U.S. networks picked it up, I will agree that details are sketcky.

man if this was facts it will be on every news wire around the world or was it in George W Bush black book you found it

[Maestro69]

i rather listen to the BBC than some bias US networks....

[HADC10]

well, it is a reliable network, but it has a not-so-hidden bias

What bias? Show me one good example of bias!

[drv4truk]

As I said, I am working to find a second source. However, I would not exactly call the BBC a great source.

and hpsoct, well, this would be true if he was found dead in a cave in Pakistan, but if he managed to get into Iran, I doubt that the gov of Iran would not know, and an Informant in the Iran gov. is possible, particularly if it is part of the reformist wing, which is slightly more U.S.- friendly than the hardliners.

The BBC is just as good as some of the other sources out there. They have their problems with running biased stories just like the American news outlets. But I wouldn't dismiss them because of that.

Iran would have nothing to gain by admitting that Osama was hiding in their country. If anything, that would only strengthen the resolve about Iran being a Terrorist friendly government. And it would be another reason why, under any circumstances, they should not be allowed to have a nuclear program. They can feign ignorance of course, but if he has been there, then someone knew about it. If it is true, then they can and will be be held accountable for their actons.

[airline55]

No, I did not say they were no good, I simply pointed out a problem with them.

However, back on topic, I looked, but could not find a second source, so it seems that this is a story just within the intel network.

[Maestro69]

I'll believe this story when i see Osama's Bin Laden body on TV.

However, airline55, there was a newspaper article only a few weeks back in The Sydney Morning Herald claiming that Bin Laden was either very ill or died due to the fact we havent heard anything from him for over a year. Though, again, we need actual proof to prove Bin Laden is dead.

[HADC10]

The only stories I can find on bin Laden being dead are from a couple of conservative sites. If bin Laden was already dead, the story would have gone to Al-Jazeera, and the White House would be the first to talk about it.

[Scalpel4]

As I said, I am working to find a second source. However, I would not exactly call the BBC a great source.

Everyone, you'll find he considers every source other than Rush Limbaugh and Fox News to be "too liberal to be true".

I've followed this as well, but I cannot believe it until he's declared a martyr by the extremists. If he's dead, most likely it's from his failing health. I haven't seen a reputable report come across csmonitor.com yet.

[FuriousFalcon]

Nah hes not dead...would have heard something from the US government by now!

[Atlantic_Air]

As I said, I am working to find a second source. However, I would not exactly call the BBC a great source.

And FOX news is...?

as 2834092834902834 other people stated above me, we gotta find proof that he's dead
just because he's not talking to the world right now, doesn't mean he died.

[sawilson1971]

Is the guy who wrote the original report a friend / supporter or colleague of George W? If he is then it is a very dangerous report as it gives the madman an excuse to strike at Iran for giving aid to a terrorist.

[airline55]

lets see, two issues here.

first, FOX NEWS: Yes, Fox News is. Yes, many of the Reporters for Fox are republicans with more conservative ideas, but, on every political issue they invite both sides to come and debate the issue at hand.

second, friend of Bush, I have no idea. However, we have known for a very long time that Iran supports terrorists, this may just be more proof.

[Scalpel4]

lets see, two issues here.

first, FOX NEWS: Yes, Fox News is. Yes, many of the Reporters for Fox are republicans with more conservative ideas, but, on every political issue they invite both sides to come and debate the issue at hand.

second, friend of Bush, I have no idea. However, we have known for a very long time that Iran supports terrorists, this may just be more proof.

That's not true. I watch it every now and then just to see what they're saying. Half the time they have a neocon, the other half they have a lefty (usually a weak one) against a neocon.

Personally I would have understood invading Iran if we didn't go into Iraq. It's funny two-thirds of the "Axis of Evil" has been almost completely disregarded and they're much worse than Iraq was pre-invasion, Plus this Osama issue still lingering, not going away, revelations that all anti-terorism activity by the US ceased the 8 months prior to 911, Add to that Putin and his slow and steady march backwards, our friends in Dubai (WHO OWN PART OF FOX NEWS BY THE WAY) playing both sides, it's all just one giant cluster-f*ck which makes me want to run for office just so I can do something about all this mess.