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[KJS607]

AirAsia

 

What is going on in AirAsia?

 

Is the weather really to blame or are there deeper issues within

the Asian budget carrier that they are blaming on the coincidental

poor weather conditions?

 

1st incident- 

 

Lost contact with ATC and dissapeared off radar shortly after.

 

3 days later no survivors found, only dead bodies with no life jackets

on and the wreckage is located at the sea floor. 

 

cause: suspected poor weather

 

 

 

 

2nd incident- 

 

Insufficient braking power causing runway overrun and severe

damage to the landing gear after getting stuck in a muddy field.

 

cause: poor weather conditions at the time

 

 

As more happen, I'll add them.

 

 

 

What is your opinion?

[bAnderson]

Bad weather. Its all fluke.

[PC Will]

 

AirAsia

 

What is going on in AirAsia?

 

Is the weather really to blame or are there deeper issues within

the Asian budget carrier that they are blaming on the coincidental

poor weather conditions?

 

1st incident- 

 

Lost contact with ATC and dissapeared off radar shortly after.

 

3 days later no survivors found, only dead bodies with no life jackets

on and the wreckage is located at the sea floor. 

 

cause: suspected poor weather

 

 

 

 

2nd incident- 

 

Insufficient braking power causing runway overrun and severe

damage to the landing gear after getting stuck in a muddy field.

 

cause: poor weather conditions at the time

 

 

As more happen, I'll add them.

 

 

 

What is your opinion?

 

An airline with poorly trained pilots.... or a combination of all of the aforementioned...

[737]

An airline with poorly trained pilots.... or a combination of all of the aforementioned...

Do you really think a pilot with 20,000+ hours and a co-pilot with almost 3,000 hours be considered poorly trained/inexperienced? Also, insufficient braking power is something that a pilot can't always control.

 

In my mind, I feel as if it was a fluke. With tall thunderstorms (44,000 feet up) any experienced crew could have had an accident. As per the 2nd issue, I believe that it's probably an isolated maintenance issue and not something wide spread across the airline.

[KJS607]

probably an isolated maintenance issue and not something wide spread across the airline.

Runway overruns from the same maintenance issues are common. Hardly isolated. This is why I believe this going a little deeper.

[Stevphfeniey]

Runway overruns from the same maintenance issues are common. Hardly isolated. This is why I believe this going a little deeper.

 

You're a ****ing moron.

[KJS607]

You're a ****ing moron.

Why do you feel the need to tell me something I already know?

[Hake.]

Didnt MAS crash twice? Doesn't mean they're dangerous. And I wouldn't call runway overrun dangerous, wet runways (SE Asia is being battered by weather rn) mean that it'll take longer to brake anyway.

[Ioh]

Kai this is pure conspiracy. The fact there has been two incidents with airasia is a fluke just like it was a fluke with malaysian. Stop stirring s***.

[Superman]

Kai this is pure conspiracy. The fact there has been two incidents with airasia is a fluke just like it was a fluke with malaysian. Stop stirring s***.

this...

[Boeing 707]

Didn't this also happen to Malaysia Airlines? Two aircraft incidents in like the same week/month?

[PC Will]

Do you really think a pilot with 20,000+ hours and a co-pilot with almost 3,000 hours be considered poorly trained/inexperienced? Also, insufficient braking power is something that a pilot can't always control.

 

In my mind, I feel as if it was a fluke. With tall thunderstorms (44,000 feet up) any experienced crew could have had an accident. As per the 2nd issue, I believe that it's probably an isolated maintenance issue and not something wide spread across the airline.

 

Yes, I do think that.

 

If aircraft are sliding off the runway upon landing.... I'd say that's a lack of experience in such situations unless of course, the "insufficient braking power" is 100% to blame, personally, I feel that is somewhat a cover story for the incident, to try to drum it down somewhat...

 

I'm not saying It doesn't happen, I'm sure it does, but it just seems to convenient.... right after the other incident

[Stevphfeniey]

I think it's because Kai and Will are racists and believe that only strong white men can properly handle a piece of machinery as technologically advanced as an aircraft. Random and tragic accidents never happen to Western airlines, so obviously it is the fault of the Asians because they're Asian.

 

It all makes sense. 

[KJS607]

I think it's because Kai and Will are racists and believe that only strong white men can properly handle a piece of machinery as technologically advanced as an aircraft. Random and tragic accidents never happen to Western airlines, so obviously it is the fault of the Asians because they're Asian.

 

It all makes sense. 

Bull. s***.

 

 

These things do happen in the western world the same they do in Asia, remember the vanishing Air France A330? Ryanair almost running out of fuel on 3 planes in the same day? Spanair MD-87 taking off and instantly barrel rolling to its death upon rotation for no apparent reason?

 

Location and the people are not the issue, I was simply highlighting the carrier. A similar thing could have been done with Ryanair not long ago with 3 planes running out of fuel on the same day....

[Stevphfeniey]

Then why is there even a topic on this in the first place?

[KJS607]

Then why is there even a topic on this in the first place?

The carrier. It seems it could have deep issues and I'd like to open up peoples opinions on that.

[PC Will]

I think it's because Kai and Will are racists and believe that only strong white men can properly handle a piece of machinery as technologically advanced as an aircraft. Random and tragic accidents never happen to Western airlines, so obviously it is the fault of the Asians because they're Asian.

 

It all makes sense. 

 

Don't be ****ing stupid.... I never suggested that whatsoever.. this is you doing your typical thing of trying to pin things on us two, maybe because you are Asian (As far as I know anyway) and so feel this is somewhat aimed towards you, this is not the case at all... 

 

This can happen to anyone, all I'm saying is my gut feeling says there is some sort of "pushing under the carpet" here to a degree, and it's not purely 100% to blame with the "loss of braking power"....

[dieseltu]

What evidence do you have that they have deep issues.  Besides the fact that management has a duty to cut cost as much as possible using risk management, and humans have something to prove, and airline pilots sometimes put the aircraft down to far down the runway . Then make an oops and decide to stick it instead of going around again...

[Boeing 707]

I think it's because Kai and Will are racists and believe that only strong white men can properly handle a piece of machinery as technologically advanced as an aircraft. Random and tragic accidents never happen to Western airlines, so obviously it is the fault of the Asians because they're Asian.

 

It all makes sense. 

 

Well that was not racist at all...

And this is coming from an Asian.   (if you didn't realize, I'm talking about me.)

I could also safely say that random tragic accidents also do happen in western airlines. Ever recall Turkish Airways 981? Or American Airlines 191? Those were both western carriers.. 

All I'm saying is that these disasters can happen anytime, and place, to any people, etc..

[PC Will]

not racist my ass will. anyway its probally weather related or ice.

 

away I go

 

If you actually know me in person, you'll know I'm not.

 

Just because you think my "actions" or "comments" are racist, doesn't make me one.