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[TNT88]

I would like to add suggestion to separate A330 and A340 production.

While both Aircraft share lots of common components such as cockpit, or interior style. But then again they have lots of difference as well, such as engines number, or fuselage length, or engine type, and the new generation A340 (-500/-600) have different wing size.

 

Now many people would argue that A330 and A340 are just like B777 family, they have different fuselage and different wingspan, as well as different length. Why would we separate A330 and A340?

 

1. Well logically speaking, they are from 2 different family of aircraft, hence why Airbus Called them A330 and A340 instead of A330-400 or A330-500.

 

2. The number of engines used on an Aircraft play a big role for the overall design of the aircraft, to be honest it would be one of the main key that determine an aircraft type and final performance. Just like B747 and B777.

 

3. The 2 aircraft are intended for different market, just like B757 and B767.

 

4. They have quite different design with the wings especially with the new generation A340 (-500/-600 series)

 

5. And the maximum fuel capacity are quite different with one of another which would affect the Maximum weight to operate between the A330 and A340.

 

6. Also A340 have extra landing gear in the middle of the fuselage to withstand the more weight the plane carries.

 

7. With A330NEO coming up in just 2 years. I think it would be more appropriate to categorized A330 and A330NEO in the same family aircraft compared to combining A330 and A340 at the same family.

 

I know both plane look and have lots of similar components. But it's not close enough to be classified as 1 family type.

 

Now some say that A330 and A340 could be categorized as A300 and A310. Well it's not true because A300 and A310 shared more common characteristics such as engine quantity, and same structure, it basically a same plane with different fuselage length and different engine type.

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[Will101]

The A330 and the A340 were on the same production line. Airbus couldn't produce the 12 (?) A330s per month along with the same number of A340s, the 12 would have to be split say 9 A330 / 3 A340. 

[KJS607]

They are in the same family in real life so will not be split for your advantage.

[n.x.w.m]

They are in the same family in real life so will not be split for your advantage.

 

+1.

 

The A330/A340 were made under one type rating, meaning a pilot on one aircraft could transfer to the other one quite easily. In real life, they are also in the same family [like Kai said] therefore, we will not be splitting up the A330 and A340 aircrafts into different families.

[Hake.]

The 737-600, 737-700ER and 737-900ER are all aimed at different markets too. The -600 is short to medium haul, the -700ER is quite different markets, same with -900ER. Completely different markets, different fuselage lengths and more.

[TNT88]

The 737-600, 737-700ER and 737-900ER are all aimed at different markets too. The -600 is short to medium haul, the -700ER is quite different markets, same with -900ER. Completely different markets, different fuselage lengths and more.

But they are part of the same family

[TNT88]

+1.

 

The A330/A340 were made under one type rating, meaning a pilot on one aircraft could transfer to the other one quite easily. In real life, they are also in the same family [like Kai said] therefore, we will not be splitting up the A330 and A340 aircrafts into different families.

 

But Would A330NEO be in the same category as the old A330 or not?

[KJS607]

But Would A330NEO be in the same category as the old A330 or not?

likely not.

[Conor]

A330 and A340 are in the same family and so they will most likely not be seperated. It would also create a massively unbalanced market for long-haul aircraft. 

[The Manager]

I don't think they should be separated. Unlike the 757/767 which had two separate production lines, the A330/A340 were built on the same line. Plus, the 757/767 have their own base maintenance costs in real life and in game, whereas the A330/A340 share maintenance costs. 

 

However I do think that the A330NEO should have its own category (just the like A320NEO and 737MAX do), as the base maintenance costs will likely change as it has a completely different wing and engine, and many other differences too. 

[TNT88]

I don't think they should be separated. Unlike the 757/767 which had two separate production lines, the A330/A340 were built on the same line. Plus, the 757/767 have their own base maintenance costs in real life and in game, whereas the A330/A340 share maintenance costs. 

 

However I do think that the A330NEO should have its own category (just the like A320NEO and 737MAX do), as the base maintenance costs will likely change as it has a completely different wing and engine, and many other differences too. 

I don't think A330NEO would have different wings though, they would however have A350's sharklets, the main difference would be the engines, but wouldn't it mean that A330NEO would be placed in the current A330/A340 cathegory? I mean, the A330-200 and A330-300 have different engine between the 2 model them self.

[The Manager]

I don't think A330NEO would have different wings though, they would however have A350's sharklets, the main difference would be the engines, but wouldn't it mean that A330NEO would be placed in the current A330/A340 cathegory? I mean, the A330-200 and A330-300 have different engine between the 2 model them self.

According to Airbus the A330NEO will have "new" wings. Yes that means it will have sharklets, but there are many new internal changes, such as new supports for an increased payload, possibly a new flap configuration. Not to mention some new materials may be included in the construction, which could change maintenance practices. 

[Hake.]

But the A330NEO is meant to have a 90something% parts commonality with the A320s series.

[Luft]

That is really an unfair picture comparision

 

 

I would like to add suggestion to separate A330 and A340 production.

Now some say that A330 and A340 could be categorized as A300 and A310. Well it's not true because A300 and A310 shared more common characteristics such as engine quantity, and same structure, it basically a same plane with different fuselage length and different engine type.

 

You took a picture of the A330-200 (the smallest A330), and a picture of the A340-600 (the largest A340).

A more fair comparision would be the A330-300 and the A340-300. Those are the aircraft that are interchangeable.

[TNT88]

That is really an unfair picture comparision

 

 

 

You took a picture of the A330-200 (the smallest A330), and a picture of the A340-600 (the largest A340).

A more fair comparision would be the A330-300 and the A340-300. Those are the aircraft that are interchangeable.

 

Both of picture highlight the main difference between the 2 families, such as the amount of engines and fuselage length differences. I wouldn't call it unfair since i didn't alter the image.

[Hawai'ian]

will not be split for your advantage.

 

they will most likely not be separated.

Here's your answer.

[Superman]

This thread... such wow

[TheMan]

shortly no in other words non or nein.

[TNT88]

This thread... such wow

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[TNT88]

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