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[channy_thegreat]

I have an airline, Virgin Australia in R0

 

The airline has operated 3 routes in it's entire existence. SYD-MEL while i waited for 2 A340-200s to join the fleet. Then the airline operated SYD-LAX exclusively until recently adding SFO as a destination as well with the lease of a 747. The start-up plane was allowed to expire on lease and thus the MEL route was terminated. However, I noticed on my staffing page (screenshot attached) I employ something like 563 cabin crew...

 

I operate THREE planes with TWELVE weekly flights. How is this even possible. 

 

It is a major item dragging down my profitability, as my DOP on these routes is almost 700k. Fortunately, I am able to survive despite this.

 

But.....Help???? It's a bug, right?

 

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[Stevphfeniey]

You're the worst boss ever, that's why

[2ndAcr]

Been around forever. Gotta remember that pilots and cabin crew only work like 30 hours a month. So you need a ton of them to do anything. LOL

[channy_thegreat]

Been around forever. Gotta remember that pilots and cabin crew only work like 30 hours a month. So you need a ton of them to do anything. LOL

So what your trying to tell me is that I need 563 cabin crew for my TWELVE monthly frequencies. 

That is 46.916cabin crew per flight or about one cabin crew member for every SEVEN paying customers. 

This is outrageous. I know the economics behind AE are as far from reality as Obama, but this just seems to far out there to be explained away like this.  

[channy_thegreat]

Been around forever. Gotta remember that pilots and cabin crew only work like 30 hours a month. So you need a ton of them to do anything. LOL

Beyond my above comment, I also apparently only need four ground crew. For three locations, and three widebodies? With little or no down time for the airframes(aka quick turn[again, only in reality) as I know there are set turn times. But still....

[2ndAcr]

 I was being sarcastic................but yes, over staffing in areas and under staffing has been an issue for as long as I have played the game. Just think of the PERSONAL service your passengers get.

[The Airbus Guy]

Your the one looking to become an accountant, You should know TABS  

[channy_thegreat]

Alright, well thanks for the input 2ndAcr. I guess nothing can be done, and the bug is going to bankrupt me. Slow slow slow painful cash flow drain, it's painful to watch. 

[channy_thegreat]

You think nobody would work for min wage? I bet if I had a real airline and posted bag handling jobs at 8$/hr I would get a stack of resumes three inches thick. Look around you, thats not economic roses you see. 

[Slider]

look @ your monthly financials. isn't their something for training? don't know if AE is programmed as such...meaning you pay employees the max amount so you have 0.00% attrition & thus no training costs & that is a cheaper way to operate than losing 5% of your workforce each month & then having to retrain new employees. an easy way to check it out is to max out the pay & see what it totals on a monthly basis, versus what your paying for training each month. if paying higher salaries is less than the cost of re-training new employees each month...then your gonna save some $$$...it doesn't look or sound like your hiring many new employees due to the fact that you only operate 3 planes (probably could do "something" with those 27 avail hours on one), but...obviously...when you get more planes, you will be "stuck" with more (new) employees & your payroll goes up. otherwise...it is what it is & some algorithm exists for the # of employees & how many are needed @ 0% reserves & for whatever sized aircraft you got...but it is AE world & not real-word. good luck. 

[channy_thegreat]

look @ your monthly financials. isn't their something for training? don't know if AE is programmed as such...meaning you pay employees the max amount so you have 0.00% attrition & thus no training costs & that is a cheaper way to operate than losing 5% of your workforce each month & then having to retrain new employees. an easy way to check it out is to max out the pay & see what it totals on a monthly basis, versus what your paying for training each month. if paying higher salaries is less than the cost of re-training new employees each month...then your gonna save some $$$...it doesn't look or sound like your hiring many new employees due to the fact that you only operate 3 planes (probably could do "something" with those 27 avail hours on one), but...obviously...when you get more planes, you will be "stuck" with more (new) employees & your payroll goes up. otherwise...it is what it is & some algorithm exists for the # of employees & how many are needed @ 0% reserves & for whatever sized aircraft you got...but it is AE world & not real-word. good luck. 

Yes the financials include a spot for employee training expenses. That however, if you would have read the thread, is not what this is about whatsoever. It is about the fact that I have three planes, and two routes, with 12 weekly frequencies and I have 500plus flight attendants. That has nothing to do about attrition and training. It is about how I have way to many on staff, because the game is computing that as my required minimum staffing needs. which is a bug. 

[Clb]

Just downsize your employees to a manageable level. Once you are turning a decent profit, increase the pay of your employees a little at a time until everyone is happy.

[channy_thegreat]

Just downsize your employees to a manageable level. Once you are turning a decent profit, increase the pay of your employees a little at a time until everyone is happy.

Again you do not understand, I have no reserves and have minimum wage for all employees. I would never pay them more. But I can't control the fact that it says I need 500+ flight attendants.