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Using a machine gun to hunt would be far more fun than a regular one, however.

 

[That, and i believe they've already banned the average bloke from ownng a machine gun. I've read before that 'assault rifles' being sold to the American public have the same firing rate as a regular rifle. One trigger pull, one bullet comes out, instead of "pull trigger, OVER9000 ZOMG I SHOT DOWN A TREE", but obviously not caring much for guns, i can't verify this.] :P

Would be quite fun



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 Might read up on the Militia Act of 1792 if you can find a copy posted that has not been jacked with.

 

 It states that "since the people are the Militia, all law abiding male citizens are required by law to own and maintain a military style rifle of their day and age" in the original version. Everyone that takes the time to try and infer what the founding fathers meant on each Amendment might want to go in and actually read the founding fathers arguments for and against each Amendment. It is all right there. Read the arguments/statements of the folks who actually wrote the thing.

 

 If the 2nd Amendment ever goes away, you can kiss the rest of the Amendments goodbye. There is a reason the 2nd is the 2nd one listed before all the others. Only the 1st Amendment is more important.

 

 Back when the Constitution was written, every male in a town was considered part of the Militia and required to own a military style weapon (which back then all guns were military style) and train with the militia weekly.



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Not to get off topic, but I feel like we've sufficiently ignored all the other amendments anyhow. That is to say I'm not condoning doing so. 


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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

 

Basically, you can bear arms if you're in a well regulated militia.

 

 

 

That doesn't mean you and Uncle Bob's gun club. It means an actually 50+ member militia with restrictions and regulations that's point is not to hunt.

 

However, the supreme court did rule that you can keep guns like that for self defense and hunting. But I don't think you need a machine gun to kill a deer. :hmmph:

 

 

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

Two can play with caps.

 

 

 

That doesn't mean you and Uncle Bob's gun club. It means an actually 50+ member militia with restrictions and regulations that's point is not to hunt.

 

 

That is your interpretation, but as pointed out by 2ndAcr, the viewpoint of the Founding Fathers, the ones who wrote and approved the Constitution, seems to have thought otherwise.  And, as was also pointed out, the Supreme Court thinks differently as well.

 

 

However, the supreme court did rule that you can keep guns like that for self defense and hunting. But I don't think you need a machine gun to kill a deer.

 

 

First of all, hunting with a machine gun is banned in a number of states (Oklahoma, Alabama, Pennsylvania, and perhaps some others as well).

 

Second, I don't think that hunting deer with machine guns is a common practice.

 

I believe that many/most hunters hunt not only for sport, but also to have the deer meat for food, and possibly to have the head stuffed and mounted.

Hunting a deer with a machine gun would likely ruin the  carcass for both food and taxidermy purposes.


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Here are a few quotes about the 2nd Amendment.

 

http://cap-n-ball.com/fathers.htm

 

 I used that site only as it had a good number of culled quotes from the Founding Fathers. But my all time favorite is the following that has been culled.

 

Benjamin Franklin: ”Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”






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