Evolution vs. Creationism
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:15 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:18 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:47 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:52 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:55 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:54 AM
Evolution is a much more advanced theory, and is the best thing we have at the moment to fact. But there isn't enough supporting evendence to prove it, therefore remaining a theory. Aventually it will have enough though, and we will be able to call it fact unless something strange happens, in which case a new theory will come out and the cycle will repeat itself.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:52 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:31 AM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:02 PM
I am an evolutionist, because of the supportable evidence provided for the theory.
Exactly! And what do Christians have? ...the bible, which is no more plausible than Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:00 PM
Creationism - Teach this, the scientific community will whine. However, the uber religious people would extremely love it.
Definitely Evolution. Despite me being catholic, we should purely teach creationism in church and teach evolution in schools.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:07 PM
Another thing to remember, is their honestly enough proof to say that Creationism is a more likely theory to explain where we came from? Of course not. the amount of evidence that supports creationism is moot compared to the amount of evidence we have to support Evolution.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:21 PM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:29 PM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:33 PM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:46 PM
So... who's meant to have created the creationists (i.e. those who apparently created the earth and universe and stuff) anyway?
Every hear of someone named God that's always been?
Personally, I believe that creationism was where the world was started 4000-odd years ago with older material to give it a base (e.g. plants have nutrients in the soil to much on), since it is implausible for the millions upon billions of years to evolve to become us. Too many coincidence for me to think that everything happened by chance. Animals may have adapted (evolved) since then, but that is not how the world started.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:09 PM
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:13 PM
As my mother says, and she is a Greek Orthodox, the bible is not meant to be taken literally. Parts of the bible condone slavery, other parts say that anyone who commits adultery should be stoned. If we took the bible literally, society today would be a vastly different place.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:51 AM
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:57 AM
That's an interesting observation, QK, considering that written records date back roughly 5000 years. And assuming the Earth is 6000 years old, that gives humans about 1000 years to go from protoplasm to building the Tower of Babel. But I digress. On another point, if I were the "intelligent designer" or "creator", I personally would come down in a very public place, and clear up any controversy or disagreement. But again, I digress.
Who said that man wasn't created by the intelligent designer? Who says that the intelligent designer is just ROFLing as we become more advanced and "sinful"?
Let me clarify how I view the Bible before I proceed with my rebuttal (such an ugly word): the Old Testament is to be used for history and for instruction, the New Testament is the covenant that we need to live by (Hear | Believe | Repent | Confess | Baptism). Human history may date back a bit further, but what exactly are you talking about? Homo sapiens, or the steps in between?There is clear, scientific evidence showing that there are things on earth significantly older than 5 or 6 thousand years. It seems odd to explain that the earth is only 5 or 6 thousand years old when Human history dates back significantly further than that, and there are objects on earth dating back into the billions of years.
As my mother says, and she is a Greek Orthodox, the bible is not meant to be taken literally. Parts of the bible condone slavery, other parts say that anyone who commits adultery should be stoned. If we took the bible literally, society today would be a vastly different place.
And, for example, follow the nation of Israel. I think it is safe to consider that the world would still turn out the way it is today if the biblical version of creation happened.
Can I ask you for your explanation as for the gaps in the fossil record? Also, I'm not disputing that there is evidence leading to primitive life before the biblical creation occured, but I do dispute that there were major changes (bacteria became fish, became reptiles, became mammals, became apes, became humans) because of the lifespan of the would make that process impossible (10,000 years). There is no feasible way that there was lovely, life encouraging conditions for millenia before that. Also, there are many scientists that are shunned for their belief in intelligent design (see the documentary Expelled). So, who knows how many stories we are not hearing from some very bright minds in the scientific community?Also QK, for every successful species or type of life to inhabit the Earth, there are hundreds upon thousands upon millions of failed life species. The evolution of life is by no means a clean, one after another process. It's trial and error played out over an extremely long time. So the idea that it's taken some 3 billion years for life to reach today's level isn't so implausible. I recall a quote from the Greek philosopher Hippocrates that goes to the tune of "Men think epilepsy devine, merely because they do not understand it. We will one day know what causes it and cease to call it devine. And so it is with everything else in the Universe." We do have a very good idea as to what causes the evolutionary process (natural selection), and yet we have not moved on to different questions. You may believe what you wish, QK, but the evidence for evolution is great, and intelligent creation is an ever receding pocket.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:18 AM
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