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[Austin Chen]

I am based in the UK and i want to fly from USA but it wont allow me to due to "Political Reasons". Why is this?

[Stevphfeniey]

What airport are you flying to, because if it's DCA, LGA or DAL they have range restrictions on them (ie you cannot fly to airports more than 1500 miles from these places)

[adityapratama]

Just want to make sure,you're based in UK and wanted to fly from USA,am I right?
Of course it's not possible in R1 because as far as I remember it's a Realistic World and you can only fly from your home country.

[QK Flight Industries]

Any world that starts with an R is Realistic.

[Austin Chen]

Why can i only fly from my home country?

[adityapratama]

Because it is a REALISTIC world.

[Ioh]

REALISTIC worlds mean you cannot do things unrealistically, doesn't take a genius. You seem suprised of this which im assuming you dont realise airlines in the real world cant fly from other countries (unless its EU openskies or whatever).

[Austin Chen]

How come in real life Delta Airlines can fly from Narita to Shanghai, Bangkok, Beijing, etc.?

[Alfrenzo]

Because of Open Skies Agreement AE has not yet implemented. If it is at any rate, we'll have British and Australian carriers flying from SIN to any place they'd want. Makes no sense eh?

[M4matthew]

How come in real life Delta Airlines can fly from Narita to Shanghai, Bangkok, Beijing, etc.?

If I recall correctly, Delta are not allowed to pick up passengers in Asia on long haul flights from America with a stop over.

It's the same for British Airways who fly from Heathrow to Hong Kong and onto Sydney, they are not allowed to pick up any passengers in Hong Kong.

Singapore Airlines flies from Manchester to Munich and onto Singapore, but they are not allowed to drop any passengers off at Munich.

The list goes on...

[BritAbroad]

REALISTIC worlds mean you cannot do things unrealistically, doesn't take a genius. You seem suprised of this which im assuming you dont realise airlines in the real world cant fly from other countries (unless its EU openskies or whatever).

Your tone is far from helpful. If you can't stop yourself from being patronising, kindly stop posting.

I am based in the UK and i want to fly from USA but it wont allow me to due to "Political Reasons". Why is this?

In older versions of AE, any airline used to be allowed to fly any route. We found that this allowed for airlines flying all over the world with 1000s of aircraft, which is far from realistic. We decided to split the AE universe into "Open" worlds, where you can fly anywhere on any route, and "Realistic" worlds, where all of your routes must start and finish in your home country. Those that wanted to create mega-airlines could play "Open" worlds and those that wanted a bit more realism and a bit more of a challenge moved to "Realistic" Worlds.
(The only exceptions in realistic worlds to the "home country" rule is if your country is in an "openskies" country - for instance, if your home country is in the EU, you can fly flights within the EU without going through your home country - but you can only fly outside of the EU from your own country.)

How come in real life Delta Airlines can fly from Narita to Shanghai, Bangkok, Beijing, etc.?

In real life, airlines typically can only fly routes from their own countries, for various political, regulatory and even economic reasons.
However, individual airlines in real life are able to secure individual agreements (outside of openskies treaties) with governments and authorities of other countries, to allow aircraft to fly from those countries. There are differing levels of agreement and will vary from airline to airline. For instance, in some cases, the regulator may allow specific foreign airlines the right to stop, refuel and set-down passengers but not pick them up. In other cases, an airline may be allowed to do this and pick up passengers.
Either way, there are too many variations for us to easily model this, especially considering the fact that it is airline-specific in the real world. In order to maintain the "realistic" feel to the "Realistic" worlds, we decided not to model this at this time.

[Dohi]

very well explained, Brit ! as usual your wisdom commands obedience.

[isbo]

Does "open skies" mean also building terminals abroad?

[PC Will]

Does "open skies" mean also building terminals abroad?

As far as i know, you are able to build terminals abroad.

[Mobeer]

(The only exceptions in realistic worlds to the "home country" rule is if your country is in an "openskies" country - for instance, if your home country is in the EU, you can fly flights within the EU without going through your home country - but you can only fly outside of the EU from your own country.)

Why not allow an EU airline to fly from another EU country to the US?
For example http://uk.reuters.co...E75K4RA20110621

[pseudoswede]

As far as i know, you are able to build terminals abroad.

Not in realistic worlds.

[jonesy]

Singapore Airlines flies from Manchester to Munich and onto Singapore, but they are not allowed to drop any passengers off at Munich. but is allowed to drop freight its what british airways and delta both do too on other routes
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