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[LTU]

Is there a reason why you can´t fly between Malaysia and Israel?

[QK Flight Industries]

Where are you based?

[Royen]

I think he is based in KUL!

[LTU]

True, based in Malaysia, hub in KUL

[un1]

Malaysia is an islamic nation, and thus Israel has an embargo on it.

[crazydj]

I dont want to speak political but Islamic republic(nation) is having an embargo on israel(TLV), not the other way around:)
Therefore u cannot fly between those destinations, but if u have a hub over a natural country u can fly to lsrael(TLV)

[un1]

I dont want to speak political but Islamic republic(nation) is having an embargo on israel(TLV), not the other way around:)

Crazy religious politics. I still think it's amazing as to how Jews and Islamics/Muslims could peacefully exist together for thousands of years, and yet all it took was a breif rise of the Nazi party to completely shatter it.

[Alfrenzo]

By the way, I've seen people fly TLV-CGK, but ain't Indonesia a more Islamic country compared to Malaysia, and therefore with the embargo?

[BritAbroad]

Was that in AE or real life?

[Alfrenzo]

AE.

[BritAbroad]

I can only assume that Indonesia was forgotten from the list... un1?

[9M-TKS]

Indonesia doesn't recognize Israel either, so I'm assuming this was overlooked.

[BritAbroad]

I shall remind un1!

[mariowebbocious]

FYI, Indonesia is not an Islamic country, it is just a country with largest population of moslem in the world.
but then, I didnt know whether my country banned a flight to Israel or not.
but indeed, most of Indonesian dont really like Israel.

[adityapratama]

Eventhough Indonesia isn't an islamic country, we doesn't have any kind of diplomatic relations with Israel because we didn't recognize it as a nation. There's no Israeli's embassy in here, instead, we do have a Palestine Representatives as a support for the nation.

So yes, un1 must have missed this one

[Alfrenzo]

I do vaguely recall why El Al couldn't start flights to SIN was due to SIN being sandwiched between Malaysian and Indonesian airspace.

[Dohi]

I'm an Indonesian, so i think i can chip in some info. There is no diplomatic relations between Indonesia and Israel. BUT, Indonesian can still enter Israel via Jordan; and requested entry visa into Israel only in Jordan; with conditions the passport holder must not be Moslem by religion. Many Indonesian whom are Christian are doing this when they want to do pilgrimage journey in Israel.

Malaysia, on the other hand, if you are holding Malaysian passport, 100% visa will be rejected whatever the religion is.

Singapore just being pragmatic, yes they can enter Isreal freely; but El Al won't be allowed to fly through Malaysian and Indonesian airspace (maybe shot down???). So to avoid any trouble, Singapore just let the airline to be restricted.

I have a French friend whom live in Dubai telling me that his european friend was banned to return to Dubai after a week trip into Tel Aviv.

[Alfrenzo]

@Dohi

You have some facts wrong, being a Singaporean, SQ and LY would love to have flights to each countries (I do believe they have a lot of economic cooperation amongst others), but Malaysia and Indonesia just won't allow it. (Therefore, not restricted.)

On Jordan, yes, but that just means TLV-CGK is still restricted

And you are right on the friend. There's a reason why my mother need Israel-only passports.
And you are right on Malaysia. my father's passport writes valid for all countries except for ISRAEL

(FYI its Israel, not Isreal )

uney the , can you get CGK-TLV to be restricted?

[Conor]

Just my input I dont recognise the state of Israel either

[Dohi]

@Dohi

You have some facts wrong, being a Singaporean, SQ and LY would love to have flights to each countries (I do believe they have a lot of economic cooperation amongst others), but Malaysia and Indonesia just won't allow it. (Therefore, not restricted.)

On Jordan, yes, but that just means TLV-CGK is still restricted

And you are right on the friend. There's a reason why my mother need Israel-only passports.
And you are right on Malaysia. my father's passport writes valid for all countries except for ISRAEL

(FYI its Israel, not Isreal )

uney the , can you get CGK-TLV to be restricted?

Yes. I mean Indonesian can still enter Israel, providing being a Christian, and enter the state via Jordan. Normally, they go from CGK to Dubai or Doha; then connect to Amman. From Amman, use the land route along the Dead Sea to enter Israeli state. So, no direct flight connection from Indonesia to Israel whatsoever. This means not only CGK, but the whole chunck of airports under Indonesia should be restricted in AE.