Multiple Classes / Seat Config

As many of you know, I am working on developing a new simulation engine (basically a new lf-script) for sim2. With this, we have the opportunity to change the game in major ways. While new features like seat configuration, multiple classes of service, and route advertising make the game more realistic, they also make it much more complicated to play. Some people prefer the simple style of AE (quickly adding routes without micromanagement), while others prefer to have maximum control over their operation.

I posted this poll to get a general picture of the community's preference for additions to the game. If similar options come up later in the development process, I will do the same.

Should we have 3 classes of service (first, business, and economy) and the ability to change the distribution of seats in each aircraft?

Comments are welcome, but please don't just post a yes/no answer - that's what the poll is for.

The class system will be fun, since we'll have different prices and different markets to deal with... if you don't like it, all economy configs are always available right?

I voted yes.

I would like the ability to keep an aircraft on a route but change the seating. For example on a not so busy route have 3 classes but as the route gets busier change the class to 2 class or something like that.

Would you be able to set your own prices? So if you have a strong hub you could charge more and get more loadfactor than a competitor who just want's to make a fast buck?

Yes, you can do all economy (or even all First) if you choose.

Prices for each class will be independent (which adds to the complexity).

The hub effect is a little sketchy at the moment but is being worked on.

Yes, you can do all economy (or even all First) if you choose.

Prices for each class will be independent (which adds to the complexity).

The hub effect is a little sketchy at the moment but is being worked on.

If this does become a reality, when will we see it in the game? Also, smaller aircraft like the Cessna 404 and Saab 340/2000 will have just one class, correct?

Spense

I like this idea. I think there should be a "same class as rest of aircraft types" button so if you have lets say multiple 777's or A380's you can choose the same configuration instead of having to type it over and over again. But if you choose not to do so you dont have to click the button.

If this does become a reality, when will we see it in the game? Also, smaller aircraft like the Cessna 404 and Saab 340/2000 will have just one class, correct?

Spense

I agree with you but I still think that they should get the option of the type of class they want to serve but it must be 100% of the a/c.

In addition, I understand that some of the components in this simulation won't match the real world but allowing someone to constantly change their configuration is not very realistic.

Listed below are a few options I came up with:
1-Have a onetime configuration
2-Have no limit on the # of configurations but charge for a configuration change (Have the cost based on a/c size)
3-Have a waiting period from the time they choose the new configuration to the time they can use that a/c again.

Well, i vote a yes on this proposal.

At the end of the day, every airline wishes to have their own class configuration to suit their hub, because not every airport have handle 4/3-class configuration and some are more ideal to an all-economy seatout configuration.

Though my question is:
Will the seat configuration of the aircraft be reverted back to a one-class configuration and allow us to change that once it has been delivered or will it currently remain as the 2-class configuration??

And also, apart from choosing the class configuration, are also going to choose the type of seats, range of food, and extra bits say a SQ or QF offer inflight, or is that something for later to work on?

3-Have a waiting period from the time they choose the new configuration to the time they can use that a/c again.

With having a waiting time is good as it will stop players just plonking a jet on LHR - HND whenever they feel like.

Each aircraft delivered should and must be able to be configured to suit the players airline or alliance (In Future) conditions, I am in for having a waiting time to alter any configuration if they wish to plonk it on another route, in other words, its in the hanger awaiting deployment, like in the real world.

In AirwaySim, the delay operates such that the aircraft can be put on a route anytime but doesn't actually fly the route (make or lose money) for 3 game days after a configuration change. It's a type of maintenance just like regularly scheduled A/B/C/D checks that ground aircraft for a certain number of days - dunno if we want to implement something like that?

In AirwaySim, the delay operates such that the aircraft can be put on a route anytime but doesn't actually fly the route (make or lose money) for 3 game days after a configuration change. It's a type of maintenance just like regularly scheduled A/B/C/D checks that ground aircraft for a certain number of days - dunno if we want to implement something like that?

But, airlines can have all three classes on one plane, right? And you can choose to have one plane in just one class, correct. Assuming this does get added (which so far the chances seem high) about when will we see it on the sim?

Spenser

Why have a waiting time?

Airlines can change their config in a few hours these days.

A 747-400 Combi can be changed from PAX - freight config to full PAX in about 4 hours. The same goes for other types.

You can't tell me that if they need to change the config that it takes days to accomplish. The costs are too high having a plane out of service just to add a few seats.

Why have a waiting time?

Airlines can change their config in a few hours these days.

A 747-400 Combi can be changed from PAX - freight config to full PAX in about 4 hours. The same goes for other types.

You can't tell me that if they need to change the config that it takes days to accomplish. The costs are too high having a plane out of service just to add a few seats.

If that is the case then there should be a charge to change the configuration each time or just have the delay one hour (one sim day).

Just like to add:

New planes that come from the factory are already fitted out prior to delivery to the client, so therefore, it show be a non-issue from the start.

Now, if the airline wanted to change their configuration or product across a whole fleet, then depending on the plane, i would imagine between 3-6 weeks tops per each plane. I hardly doubt it takes any longer.

and depending on the fleet size

I think this is good idea. Why?

By this we will have Low cost caries, Business class, First class aircraft and airline. For example: FRA-IST B738 form XY airline is low cost and has an low cost competition, but B738 for YY airline is business class and is not competitor of airline XY because passengers are different class.

By this we get more Players to get their "piece of cake". And also we get one big step closer to reality.