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Something very strange is happening with my routes out of Atlanta and I am not convinced that it is a bug. My LF would fall substantially to about 15% and basically I can correct back to 80-90% just by a reset without much change to the price. In some instances there is no additional capacity on the route. Normal yes but immediately on updating I would go back to find that the LF has dropped back to 15% or there abouts. At first I thought someone was resetting at the same time but this happens with such regularity I am unable to rationalise it. Anyone with a similar problem. I operate extensively out of Munich and Toronto but I dont see the same thing happening.

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I think I know what you are talking about. I remember having a Q400 on some route like SBN-BWI with very little competition on the route. I made the route only to find out it went down to some very low %. I wanted to see how fast the route would change so I used 2 windows. 1 window was set to see my routes and the other I used to make it. Instantly after I created the route, the % dropped very low. I think it is just some bug in the game that is very rare but it seems a few of us have experienced it before. Not sure what causes it though.
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already reported it to the cheat police as i told you in the game....according to them running a script to automatically reset your routes for you (which is what said airline is doing) is not cheating

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already reported it to the cheat police as i told you in the game....according to them running a script to automatically reset your routes for you (which is what said airline is doing) is not cheating



So I guess it is quite okay for us to develop different scripts to basiscally do all the critical things we would otherwise sit and figure out. If this is the case the game is degenerating and that is very sad.

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sent you another in game

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So I guess it is quite okay for us to develop different scripts to basiscally do all the critical things we would otherwise sit and figure out. If this is the case the game is degenerating and that is very sad.


So you call constantly resetting your route critical and do you have to figure it out, wow , I'm amazed at your game skills.

I'll save you some time shall I , j u s t p r e s s t h e u p d a t e r o u t e b u t t o n.

I typed slowly so you will understand.

Or shall I put it another way.

1) Choose a good city ORD , LAX , CDG , MCO ....
2) Hub at the right time to gain hub effect (you figure that out i'm not telling you that)
3) Reset 20x a day by pressing said Update route button

Oh and it helps at the beginning to trade some cheap Beeches so you get a good head start. Believe me

There you have it , all the game skills wrapped into one nice package
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already reported it to the cheat police as i told you in the game....according to them running a script to automatically reset your routes for you (which is what said airline is doing) is not cheating


You are in the army are you not. Do you start crying and calling people cheats if they come up to you with a bigger gun or better information?

Maybe not , maybe you are just a cook or clean the latrines either way I could not care less of your accusations.

I'm brokering now anyway but i'll stay in ATL just to irritate you ....
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if youre brokering ill take planes if not for waa
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You are in the army are you not. Do you start crying and calling people cheats if they come up to you with a bigger gun or better information?

Maybe not , maybe you are just a cook or clean the latrines either way I could not care less of your accusations.

I'm brokering now anyway but i'll stay in ATL just to irritate you ....

get your facts straight. no im not in the army. secondly, i dont clean latrines, i'm not enlisted...and those people do a damn fine job....you arent irritating me anymore, ive accepted the fact that you are a real piece of work....we all know what you are doing, you can give your pathetic excuses all you want

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and to add on to my last post....
i understand that you are not American which is totally fine, but its quite apparent you do not understand how our military works. You are trying to downgrade me by saying i am a cook/ clean latrines.... the military could not survive without the enlisted corps. they are what makes the day to day operations run smoothly...the officers just supervise...so try thinking about what you are saying before you make fun of the backbone of our Air Force...and i am quite sure it works the exact same way in the other branches as well

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So you call constantly resetting your route critical and do you have to figure it out, wow , I'm amazed at your game skills.

I'll save you some time shall I , j u s t p r e s s t h e u p d a t e r o u t e b u t t o n.

I typed slowly so you will understand.

Or shall I put it another way.

1) Choose a good city ORD , LAX , CDG , MCO ....
2) Hub at the right time to gain hub effect (you figure that out i'm not telling you that)
3) Reset 20x a day by pressing said Update route button

Oh and it helps at the beginning to trade some cheap Beeches so you get a good head start. Believe me

There you have it , all the game skills wrapped into one nice package


There is a difference between resetting your route because the parameters such as capacity, price etc. have changed requiring you to update to a competitive position AND automatically restting just because someone on the route has made a change without regards for the impact on our LF. The latter is clearly exploiting a known bug in the system.

If we all decide to run a similar script the game would be in a constant state of resetting EACH and EVERY price with the sure consequence of hanging up eventually. END OF GAME.

I opin, THIS IS A DANGEROUS ACTION and should be properly ruled on.

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There is a difference between resetting your route because the parameters such as capacity, price etc. have changed requiring you to update to a competitive position AND automatically restting just because someone on the route has made a change without regards for the impact on our LF. The latter is clearly exploiting a known bug in the system.

If we all decide to run a similar script the game would be in a constant state of resetting EACH and EVERY price with the sure consequence of hanging up eventually. END OF GAME.

I opin, THIS IS A DANGEROUS ACTION and should be properly ruled on.


Only Ian Air thinks i'm running a script, which i'm not I just reset alot, up to you what you believe, i really don't give a monekys. There again Ian Air has been known to have delusions of grandeur now and again.
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You are in the army are you not. Do you start crying and calling people cheats if they come up to you with a bigger gun or better information?

Maybe not , maybe you are just a cook or clean the latrines either way I could not care less of your accusations.

I'm brokering now anyway but i'll stay in ATL just to irritate you ....


It is a sad commentary when someone's major aim in the game is to IRRITATE another player. Miller has spent a lot of time, money and effort into creating a platform for our enjoyment and not to stroke our egos.

Lets do better than that.

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It is a sad commentary when someone's major aim in the game is to IRRITATE another player. Miller has spent a lot of time, money and effort into creating a platform for our enjoyment and not to stroke our egos.

Lets do better than that.


I'm free to fly where I want when I want and for what price I want. I am also free to reset as often as I want.

End of story as far as i'm concerned.
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Only Ian Air thinks i'm running a script, which i'm not I just reset alot, up to you what you believe, i really don't give a monekys. There again Ian Air has been known to have delusions of grandeur now and again.


no sir, you are delusional...
its strictly not possible out of the 100+ routes out of ATL for you to happen to reset the SAME exact route, at the SAME exact time we are....

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no sir, you are delusional...
its strictly not possible out of the 100+ routes out of ATL for you to happen to reset the SAME exact route, at the SAME exact time we are....


You obviously have no idea whats possible then. ;)
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You obviously have no idea whats possible then. ;)

neither do you. tests were run, it was proven. k thanks get out

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Well I informed Miller, I asked him to recode the sim so that only Ian Air can reset his routes hope your happy ....
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Well I informed Miller, I asked him to recode the sim so that only Ian Air can reset his routes hope your happy ....

Yeah, well its unfortunate the cheat police wont do anything about it since they refuse to police their own........

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its a shame that one rotten apple has to bring the WAA down as the rest of them are well respected and quite nice




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