A New Toy...

I've opened up BAE Systems aircraft. Not all of them... just three...

But its a start

No requests for aircraft types please, wasnt a planned change and i'm not sure if the numbers are accurate...

You've got

RJ85
BAe 146-300
J-31

Nice one TW :airplane

Very cool, thx

For those that have ordered, let me know how they perform... PM for confidentiality if you wish...

Following my calculations they perform very bad:
- J-31: worst aircraft on the AE market.
- Avro RJ85 (both engine types): same as a B717-200.
- BAe-146-300: same as an EMB170LR.

Any thing to let fresh frames flow

This will help keep 1900 prices low when the next round starts...fresh j-31s to be had right off the bat

Following my calculations they perform very bad:
- J-31: worst aircraft on the AE market.
- Avro RJ85 (both engine types): same as a B717-200.
- BAe-146-300: same as an EMB170LR.

But are you actually operating the aircraft?

Operation of the aircraft on route ZRH - DUB.. Comparing prices between Saab 2000 and BAE 146-300...

Saab 2000: 75k DOP, give or take a bit.
BAE 146: 130k DOP, give or take a little.

Performance is okay as far as I can see. I haven't tested further, however, planning one changing the fleet eventually with these types.

edit: Frequency on the route is 2 times daily.

But are you actually operating the aircraft?

No, but it should be correct though. It means that the aircraft is relatively expensive to operate. I should explain it a bit more detailed:

Operation of the aircraft on route ZRH - DUB.. Comparing prices between Saab 2000 and BAE 146-300...

Saab 2000: 75k DOP, give or take a bit.
BAE 146: 130k DOP, give or take a little.

Performance is okay as far as I can see. I haven't tested further, however, planning one changing the fleet eventually with these types.

edit: Frequency on the route is 2 times daily.

This might be true, but since the BAe 146-300 has 106 seats and the Saab 2000 55 you should look at the revenues and the profit. It should give a better indication on which aircraft is cheaper to operate.
When, for example, the Saab 2000 would have 100k revenue and 75k profit it would take 25k for operating. When the BAE 146 would have 200k revenue and 130k profit it would take 70k for operating. This would mean that the BAE 146 has higher profits, but that they are relatively lower than those of the Saab 2000.

Fair enough, it is probably more expensive per seat to operate, but two facts to consider..

1. It's a jet plane, which already increases fuel usage in itself..
2. It has 4 turbines, be it small, so the usage would be even higher than a regular 2 engine jet. Especially the design of the engines on this type would make it fairly uneconomical compared to other types.

In short, I think the profits and such as projected now are fairly realistic in comparison to other types. I will be making a larger inventory of various destinations and frequencies to see how the performance would change from that. I'll post that in here too.

SWEET! THANKS TW! now all we need are more tupolevs and illusyins...jk...JK... thanks once again...did i mention I love Avros? (no haven't been on one yet but they look sweet.

YES Some new metal to fly!!! I can't wait to start useing these! Thanks TW!

You don't want to go on an Avro...they are very cramped (unless you are comparing to an ERJ-135!)

Just for the experience..cause those 4 jets outta make some nice noise!

Just for the experience..cause those 4 jets outta make some nice noise!

Its nickname the "Whisper" jet for a reason... So they make hardly any noise at all...

I swear one of those could fly into the back of someones head and they wouldnt hear it coming!

wow, good work tw, keep it up nice!

I have flown on a few 146s, even a Dan-Air one, and found them very roomy and comfortable. The best feature is the uninterrupted view of the ground. Lufthansa were very miffed when BAE canned the RJX because their passengers like flying in their AVRO RJs. Yes they are very quiet and almost vibration free inside.

Steve

Air France by British European weren't, 6 abrest with a normal sized isle...

Oh.....curse you Illustrated Dictionary of Modern Commercial Aircraft! I blame you!!!!.......jk.....