There really should be an easier way to transition a fleet into newer aircraft without having to go through every single aircraft with multiple clicks just to transfer routes off an older plane onto a new one. Unless there is a method that I don't know about... but it would be super nice to have an option on the aircraft list to select the aircraft you want to replace, then from there have a "transfer routes to a new aircraft" option or something like that. Basically I am trying to phase out all my older 732's with new 733's but right now I have to manually change each and every aircraft.
Need an easier way to upgrade our fleet.
#1
Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:03 PM
#2
Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:17 PM
#3
Posted 16 April 2014 - 03:58 PM
Yeah im just about to replace 60 Hawker Siddley's 3B's with 737-3 going to take a while
#4
Posted 16 April 2014 - 04:05 PM
It takes a while, but quicker alternatives help megaspamlines. eg. One could replace a B732 with an A380 with 1 click.
#5
Posted 16 April 2014 - 04:23 PM
#6
Posted 16 April 2014 - 04:51 PM
I disagree. AE has had way too many huge airlines. If you get something that big and challenging to run, you should have to manage it accordingly.
#7
Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:53 PM
#8
Posted 16 April 2014 - 09:17 PM
I disagree. AE has had way too many huge airlines. If you get something that big and challenging to run, you should have to manage it accordingly.
That.
And also, I would be given less options for managing my fleet. For example: Right now I can move specific routes run by specific aircraft to others, which helps in right sizing my fleet for my network. This is opposed to one button that mass replaces aircraft and, presumably, all of their routes.
#9
Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:41 PM
We need this new option, replace 200 airplane is never fun
#10
Posted 16 April 2014 - 10:41 PM
We need this new option, replacing 200 airplanes are never fun
#11
Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:11 PM
#12
Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:04 AM
Why would oone have over 200 planes in the first place, if you're not a spamline. Few airlines do and this idea is coming from someone who strives for realism...
200 planes are not that many and even replacing 50 narrowbodies with something else is a pain. Swiss, a fairly small airline, operates 80 plannes, of which 25 are A320s. Now multiply that by 2 for AE's pax numbers and you're fairly close.
#13
Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:11 AM
#14
Posted 17 April 2014 - 11:03 AM
But the issue is with replacing them all at once. This implies there are many hundreds of aircraft on his airline.200 planes are not that many and even replacing 50 narrowbodies with something else is a pain. Swiss, a fairly small airline, operates 80 plannes, of which 25 are A320s. Now multiply that by 2 for AE's pax numbers and you're fairly close.
Also, I have felt your pain. I was operating 650 aircraft, with replacement every 10 years, in O2 last year. This is why no airline should need 350 Fokker F-27s, but that's just the way of AE.
#15
Posted 17 April 2014 - 11:38 AM
Why would oone have over 200 planes in the first place, if you're not a spamline. Few airlines do and this idea is coming from someone who strives for realism...
If you operate airlines in the US, China, India, Indonesia, etc. you gonna ended up at least with 100 aircraft because the demands just too high even with all wide-body aircraft. Besides in real life many airlines like AA, United, Delta have more than 1000 aircraft in real life, others got around 300 - 500 aircraft in their company, so it's pretty realistic for airlines having more than 200 aircraft
#16
Posted 17 April 2014 - 01:01 PM
I never said no airlines had over 200 aircraft. I'm sure if you looked at the proportion of AE airlines with 200+ aircraft and compare it with 300 real airlines, it was be way way higher. It damages realism.If you operate airlines in the US, China, India, Indonesia, etc. you gonna ended up at least with 100 aircraft because the demands just too high even with all wide-body aircraft. Besides in real life many airlines like AA, United, Delta have more than 1000 aircraft in real life, others got around 300 - 500 aircraft in their company, so it's pretty realistic for airlines having more than 200 aircraft
#17
Posted 17 April 2014 - 02:16 PM
I will admit that I do have 605 aircraft with a delivery of 790 more on the books at the time of this response, with plans to change out more than 800 737's (200/200ADV/300) with the -400+ models when they come out. What I am trying to achieve right now is transition all my 200's to 300's to get rid of the 732's. Then after that would be getting rid of the 733's in favor of the 734's.
I certainly understand the feeling that "megaspamlines" should have to just deal with it, but frankly it's not that difficult to become this large once you get the hang of it & find your groove... And I am sure that even the smaller airlines with 100 or even 50 aircraft would like a way to swap out planes easier.
I also do understand the difficulty of trying to do that with aircraft that have differing runway needs, etc.
Not having this feature is not a game-killer for me... but it would just be nice, thats all.
Thanks for all the feedback guys!
#18
Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:13 PM
maybe we could do this in the aircraft section as an added section along with the buy from lessor or sell to market. Though each aircraft would have to fit the one it is replacing on a one to one basing to cover flight and turn times, such as a A320 could replace a MD88 or a 737-600 could replace a 737-300 or just newer versions of the same aircraft A320 classic to a A320neo.
#19
Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:06 PM
#20
Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:32 PM
That would take up to much time and would be almost impossible. There is no 'one size fits all' plane. For example, an MD-88 needs a longer runway than an A320. If I were to click the replace button, it couldn't replace. Then, an A320 couldn't replace the 737-600 as it has a shorter range. In an ideal world without spamlines, this would be possible.
Simply create some sort of error message if the new aircraft can't fly one or more routes, possibly with the aircraft flying the impossible route being shown. In most cases I will not use the capabilities to the max, so having 200 feet more runway need or 500 miles less range is not that much of a problem anyway.
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