Increased new plane price

I've heard of many situations where an airline grows so large, that it's sitting on piles of cash with no way to spend it. I think I have a solotion to fix that. Let charge real pricing for new airplanes.

Boeing:

The prices that they give on their site of airplanes shows that the average price for a 737-700 is $74.8 million in USD. Below is the link for Boeing aircraft.

http://www.boeing.co...ices/index.html

Airbus:

The same thing as with Boeing. A brand new A318 cost $67.7 million in USD. Below is their link.

http://www.airbus.co...rices-for-2012/

Bombardier:

Once again we see the same thing. A brand new CRJ-700 costs $24.39 million USD. Below is their link

http://www.aircraftc...ft/Bombardier/3

Embraer:

I wasn't able to find much information as to pricing with the exception of wikepedia which I personally do not trust. However, I would imagine that the same situation also occurs with Embraer as it did with Boeing, Airbus, and Bombardier.

If we ajust the pricing, I believe it would lead to a much more realistic airlines and worlds.

Are you recommending changing the purchase price only, or will this also affect leases?

Are you recommending changing the purchase price only, or will this also affect leases?

I would assume during an increase purchase price the lease would go up too

Are you recommending changing the purchase price only, or will this also affect leases?

I'm thinking of increases all of the prices across the board. Currently a 737-800 is $61 million and leases for $677,778 thousand a month. Not only would I change it to $89.1 mil to buy new, but I figure that the lease should go up to around 800-900 thousand. And then we would adjust the price for leasing as such for each aircraft.

what about start-ups

what about start-ups

I'm thinking that for start-ups (Airlines under 5 or 10 games years) would have a discount lease price. But I don't think that the price of a new plane should change.

This would probably impact the start up for many airlines, as they might not be able to afford the lease because of your proposed increase. Maybe this could be implemented later into the game (for instance past half way)  

This would probably impact the start up for many airlines, as they might not be able to afford the lease because of your proposed increase. Maybe this could be implemented later into the game (for instance past half way)

I don't know about half-way. Some of the original airlines already have 1000+ planes by then. If anything, I could be implemented for each player once they reach a certain point in the game. Once an airline reaches 500 aircraft (both order and on hand) then the new proposed prices that I brought up would go into place. Under that amount, the current prices would be in place.

So you believe it would be more realistic if a manfacturer charged his best customers more?

So you believe it would be more realistic if a manfacturer charged his best customers more?

Since inflation is not in the game and each game lasts 30-50 years, the purchase price of planes is always only correct at one instant (currently 2010), no matter what we set the prices to. "Realistic" aircraft prices is not something that can really be solved in the current game infrastructure.

Since inflation is not in the game and each game lasts 30-50 years, the purchase price of planes is always only correct at one instant (currently 2010), no matter what we set the prices to. "Realistic" aircraft prices is not something that can really be solved in the current game infrastructure.

What if we created another S-world that had the increased prices on airplanes as a challenge?

What if we created another S-world that had the increased prices on airplanes as a challenge?

In my opinion...
There's no such implementable thing as a 'realistic aircraft price', as the discounts (and there are ALWAYS some) received by airlines are lolhueg and vary greatly depending on the situation. Hence, unless we start randomising pricing, which would fail for a bunch of reasons, having realistic new aircraft prices is practically impossible.

Used aircraft prices, however...

The only way to limit the growth of airlines per se is to figure out how to make the delivery system more realistic. Could Boeing or Airbus crank out 800 planes per month each every single month?

But then you run into the mega airlines that would clog the production line by ordering several hundred planes at once anyway.

Cash is easy to make, once you break what I consider the money barrier, of 10 mil per day, not much can slow you down. Once you hit that number, growth is ensured and basically nothing can slow the increased growth, some times with startling speed. Add to that a bin dump of several hundred planes, that a mega airline can swallow whole in short order, and that just fuels the rapid growth by that much more. I have gotten into the habit of destroying most of my planes instead of selling them just to slow the growth of competition. Unless I by some moment of insanity or clicking frenzy I snag a Concorde and then I resell that sucker the moment the mistake is realized for someone else. Case in point, R4, bin dump of 45 767-300ER and 17 747-400........I swallowed the entire lot within seconds and then had them routed within an hour and added around 20 mil in DOP that fast.

 Unless you do away with the bin dumps, growth will always be rapid for a bunch of airlines. Heck just check R5, you got airlines already valued in the billions, of course they are flying jacked routes. It is easy to make that when you charge 1500 bucks for a Y class ticket to somewhere with a whopping 27Y seats flying each day. Multiply that by 5-10 routes per plane and you have super growth.

I think a '100% tax on profit margins over 4% after one year of airline operation' might be very interesting as a special world, and could potentially limit growth somewhat...