Jump to content

Photo

More Seats Than Pass


  • Please log in to reply
5 replies to this topic

#1
Sgt Schultz

Sgt Schultz

    AE Addict To-Be

  • Member
  • 21 posts

When researching routes, I frequently find several airlines competing for the same route. When there are more seats available than passengers, What kind of capacity percent are they carrying? If I were to start the route also, what kind of strategy?



#2
snoopy1212

snoopy1212

    AE Player

  • Member
  • 37 posts

Some still benefit from passengers transiting through their hubs so load numbers may still be high (aka the blue bar)

 

Or like me, I just like to out-muscle the other airline if it's spamlining like a mofo :)

 

My way of out-muscling them is to a) have a realistic seatmap that provides good legroom , B) have a good IFS, c) increase your frequency on that route and the most obvious, d) lower your price until nobody profits anymore from that route :)

 

Don't bother doing this though if you're only just starting your airline. You'll just end up wasting precious income on fighting somebody over a stupid route. Make sure you've got money to spare before deciding to go and try out-muscling them.



#3
Pineair

Pineair

    AE Luver

  • Member
  • 474 posts

User's Awards

10    16    12       9   
No need to muscle in just take 15-20% of the passengers matching price of tourist class. You should have full planes and in all probability they won't even notice.

#4
v35n

v35n

    Hi

  • Member
  • 224 posts

User's Awards

           

No need to muscle in just take 15-20% of the passengers matching price of tourist class. You should have full planes and in all probability they won't even notice.

Once my route just had like 100 out of the 2000 seats offered
And it was filled with connecting passengers, and as my route price was default while others had prices less than half of the default price, hence I earn more than trying to compete

#5
Randallator

Randallator

    Train Fan

  • Member
  • 337 posts

User's Awards

      2   

Once my route just had like 100 out of the 2000 seats offered
And it was filled with connecting passengers, and as my route price was default while others had prices less than half of the default price, hence I earn more than trying to compete

I did that with Inishmor - Dublin back when you could get an Islander into it...lets just say I had at least 2 flying that route exclusively


2rLn142.pngmsg-26818-0-86969200-1392319731.png

 
#aerlingus&ryanairworldbestairline


#6
davedave

davedave

    AE Know It All

  • Member
  • 140 posts

User's Awards

      2    2   

When researching routes, I frequently find several airlines competing for the same route. When there are more seats available than passengers, What kind of capacity percent are they carrying? If I were to start the route also, what kind of strategy?

 

The bigger your airline - total pax - the more connecting pax you get. If you're big enough, you can raise prices way, way above the default level and still fill your planes with connecting pax, regardless of what other people do on that route. You don't even have to have any demand to start with.

 

Whether you're going for that, or using default pricing and accepting the lower profit margins from filling your planes with connecting pax paying half price, it mostly doesn't matter what anyone else is doing.

 

If you're not at that stage, you can compete for the 'real' demand if you want. You may well find you can grab a large chunk or all of it, if it's just you against a spamline, and they won't even notice. That said, it's easier to be based out of airports without much competition, and in my experience however busy the world there are still completely untouched corners to start in.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users