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I am wondering which is better, to me it seems like the A330 has the 777 beat in everything except leasing cost and speed, but I am seeing people go for the 777-200 over the A330 or A340-300. Why is that?



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if i recall correctly (its been a while since i operated either one) the 777 is more efficient to operate, but i could be wrong and they are just being stupid or sentimental. its also not a huge difference, and if you already operate another 777 variant, then maintence is hugely cheaper to get the 777-200 then an A330.


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It literally doesn't matter. Just go with whichever one fits your current fleet.



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Some people (& airlines) live by the mantra "if it's not a Boeing, I'm not going." This is most common in Boeing's native country, not to mention any names.

 

Personally I prefer Airbus for both their culture & the products they produce.

 

In the game, the A330-300 is very expensive but the A340-300 is remarkably cheaper for the same capacity. Probably has higher maintenance costs with it's 4 engines but if you can afford either, who cares?

 

There's nothing wrong with the B777-200 but the B777-300 is more fuel efficient per seat. The only downsize of the -300 is that it requires a much longer runway than the -200.

 

At the end of day it really doesn't matter. use whichever you like, or both.



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A340 is terrible in almost all statistics, the only real good element is high range which I don’t think is enough to make up for everything else. It also takes away A330 delivery slots, so it’s really not worth it. I usually get both the A330 and 777 because they can be delivered at the same time and both are relatively good aircraft.


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I use both and I love them! I love that the -200 has a super short runway usage. I can take it most everywhere including places with shorter runways like OGG, LIH, Etc.

I use the A330-300 for a lot of transatlantic and US-south America. I use the 200ER as soon as it’s available. But it still leaves plenty of time to order the 200 standard while I wait for the ER

if you have to choose one or the other my vote in the 777 based on flexibility. Short runway of 200 range of 200ER & LR and capacity of 300ER. 


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Typically I am using both. Typically using the 777 for the longer routes because it is faster than 330. My typical layout is the same in the game for both aircraft. 


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Use both because the delivery capacities are gimped so to effectively expand, both deliveries is better.



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A340 is terrible in almost all statistics, the only real good element is high range which I don’t think is enough to make up for everything else. It also takes away A330 delivery slots, so it’s really not worth it. I usually get both the A330 and 777 because they can be delivered at the same time and both are relatively good aircraft.


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Do not listen to this. The A340-300 is probably the best long-range aircraft at launch, and is only worth phasing out after 777-200ER deliveries begin. If you operate an airline at that scale, it doesn't matter.

Use both because the delivery capacities are gimped so to effectively expand, both deliveries is better.


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A340 is terrible in almost all statistics, the only real good element is high range which I don’t think is enough to make up for everything else. It also takes away A330 delivery slots, so it’s really not worth it. I usually get both the A330 and 777 because they can be delivered at the same time and both are relatively good aircraft.

This is incorrect.
The A340-300 is an incredible replacement to the 747SP, and its range is unmatched until a decent while after its launch. It also shares maintenance costs with the A330, so running both can make it super efficient. 



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The A340-300 is superior to the 777-200ER in game terms for mid- to long-distance operations, but is less effective for regional services due to having a longer turn time than the A330-300 and longer minimum runway length.


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The A340-300 is superior to the 777-200ER in game terms for mid- to long-distance operations, but is less effective for regional services due to having a longer turn time than the A330-300 and longer minimum runway length.

on what planet?!? explain the math of that one? 


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Use both.. They don't deliver fast enough to expand effectively



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on what planet?!? explain the math of that one? 

 

The A340-300 has a minimum fuel flow of 39,936 - and you want fuel flow to be as low as possible. The best fuel flow you can get out of the 777-200ER in game terms is 45,203.

 

Using the same engine option, the A340-300 has a minimum runway length of 8883ft - so if the runway at the airport you're trying to serve is shorter than that then you can't fly the A340-300 to that airport. The A330-300, using the best engine for fuel flow, has a minimum runway length of 7302ft.

 

The A340-300 has a "turn time" of 90 minutes, against the 75 minutes of the A330-300. If using the best engines for fuel flow the adjusted speed of the A340-300 is also 4mph slower. This means the A330-300 can run more weekly services than the A340-300 can, which is a more significant consideration when assigning aircraft to shorter routes than to longer ones.

 

Have I "explained the maths" enough?


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A343 is the most efficient in the A330/A340 family, 772 is the most efficient 440 seat 777. The 777 is less efficient than the A340, but the 773 beats them both in cost per seat miles when it comes out later, so people could just be going for fleet commonality if they only get the 772.






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