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#52175 overloading on routes

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 29 November 2007 - 03:00 AM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

I guess Juan really did kind of kill this game, Miller doesn't wanna take care of it any more.

Well, though he put the last nail in the coffin for the most part, he wasn't really the sole cause. Almost all the people were already growing very tired of the game long before. Most between May and July. The problem is that the game becomes very unplayable after year 5 for most players.

Pretty much what summed up to kill the game in my opinion:
-Juan Trippe, he wasn't the sole cause, but very much the last nail in the coffin. Him putting the good gates into -millions really destroyed the game, making it impossible for any airline to enter a market.

-The limited amount of markets, this really makes the game not playable past a very short time. This one is the one that really killed things, as it was the factor that started the domino effect of my first and last point in what killed the game collectivly.

-The agressivness of some players and the inability to keep them uncontained. I don't mind how some players play, but sometimes it does go too far and can destroy the game. People get very fed up with this and just leave. Next to aircraft choice and amount of markets, some anti-compeitive measures are helpful. I'm not suggesting make it so that its very restictive, but some restrictions are needed to make sure that some airlines don't grow too big. The reactivation of the "Deactivate airline after X amount of days" script might also be a massive help.

#52120 overloading on routes

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 11 November 2007 - 03:01 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Lol, no I mean in the REAL world there's probably never going to be 2x A380's on a route from FLL to OKC, now someone grant me that.

Yeah, but this game dosn't really follow real world stats for numbers between specific cities, if it did I assure you, only a handful of airports would make a profit from almost every city. I should add though, there was a time when nearly every US city with a runway that was large got a Widebody from a major US airline at the time.

#52118 overloading on routes

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 11 November 2007 - 07:06 AM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Hey, happens in the real world.... guess no one told Flyworld air

Yup, an example that comes to my mind was the large competition PanAm and Air Florida (on the FL routes) in the 1980s. I think Ed Acker(sp?) was behind PA's helm at the time (should add that he once held a higher position at Air Florida.) It was a major nail in the coffin for Air Florida (the well publicized palm 90 crash was also one thing that helped it fall, oddly enough, if it wasn't for the crash, most wouldn't know who Howard Stern is (hopefully some of you have heard how he called them asking for hte fare from DCA to the 14th street Bridge.)

#52114 overloading on routes

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 10 November 2007 - 05:37 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Well it could be classed as cheating if you use this to massively attack most major cities in the game, rendering them useless. Than again, I'm a nerd. Leave. Me. Be!

Nope, still legal, not cheating, just something that gets you upset if you're not that airline but your on the route. If you dump capacity on a route, and then have the connecting pax back it up, then it's not cheating, just nerve racking for people that are not that airline. Perhaps the LF script needs rewirting to be more accomendating to more than one airline, maybe by writing out the part of the script that has bias to the largest hub? I'm not sure, all I know is that we'll have to wait for a reset that also includes many large changes to make the game more balenced out.

#52112 overloading on routes

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 10 November 2007 - 03:55 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Some people call it the hub effect. I call it 'cheating'.

Well, actually, the "hub effect" has a lot to do with it. If you have an airport that you've hubbed, and you have many flights, practically from everywhere on earth. That creates connecting pax and since your planes will be filled up faster, you also get to charge more. I think I remember reading that the script also had a "Largest hubbed airline bias", where pax will go to you first before anyone else. You'll need a sizable amount of flights before this effect takes place though. Does it tick many people off? Undoubtibly, Yes. Is it cheating? No.

#52102 Sim 1 Reset

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 08 November 2007 - 05:42 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Your just jealous. If you want a quiet life in AE and no competition then my advice would be to Hub Knoxville or somewhere like that.

Unless you're like in the middle of nowhere with the nearest airport being at like some 3000nm away, is that possible in AE?

#52089 This Game Needs Rounds Simultaneously!

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 07 November 2007 - 03:23 PM in Suggestions and Feature Requests

He sure has from my past knowledge, as I did and Australis. 750-1000 sounds very decent actually, if failing in NA, then close the less sucessful routes and open up routes elsewhere. Thats what I did in my 2nd round when "gate holding/hoarding/hogging" became a problem at MCO, I moved to WAW, which itself became intense rather quick, so I then made a large base (and then it became a hub) at VKO and was #1 there and then when I grew big enough, decided to help make a WAW hub after buying out a Alliance member who wanted to leave, I have the evolution of the routemap if you don't see my point, and I can post them all here.

The lack of more airports in AE means you'll sometimes have to move around from Continent to Continent in order to survive those mass attacks. I hate it too, but I learned that with the right work, you can deal with it. The game really needs to be reset now though, there are many inactive accounts holding onto gates and routes that could be put to better use.

#52083 This Game Needs Rounds Simultaneously!

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 07 November 2007 - 03:52 AM in Suggestions and Feature Requests

This game is getting to big! 261 airlines sharing ONE world is Obscene! We need multiple rounds going at once a limit so that a player can only play in one at a time. The cheaters are making this game unplayable for anyone who doesn't cheat. You CAN succeed without cheating, I haven't cheated and my airline is worth nearly $10 Billion! The cheaters only do it because they are incapable of do well without it. I'm not going "Juan Trippe" but I am a large airline and I am starting to combat cheating wherever I find it.

On a seperate note, you big airlines like KaaiElEm- stop putting A380's on routes for $1 fares (especially commuter routes), its wrong and its really rude! Glennos said he ENJOYS FORCING AIRLINES UNDER! Thats just SICK! People join to have fun, not so they serve someone else's PERVERSE PLEASURE by being bankrupted! I'm not picking a fight or trying to be offensive, I'm simply trying to point out a need for multiple, simultaneous rounds, that aplayer could choose ONE to join at once. The rounds would have limits as to how many could join per round (175 MAX)! Maybe we should have a seperate round just for airlines like KaaiElEm who only wish to kill each other for the heck of it. This way they can enjoy themselves and the others don't get caught in the crossfire. A win-win situation!!:eureka::eureka:

I personally think that more airports should be added in the game, as well as a new LF script and many loopholes to be fixed as well as re-activating that inactive airline script. I think multiworlds can be applied. But with the active amount of airlines perhpas being at some 50 players, it wouldn't be needed. But first, fixing all the serious problems and adding in some new cool stuff should be on the priority list of the development team since active numbers dropped so highly over the past few months. Once those issues get fixed and people come back to AE, then I think maybe then we can start seeing new things in the game.

As for airliens like the one you described. I've made my point earlier in the other thread. Let him do as he please, as long as it's within the rules I guess. Eventually he'll try new things for himself or just grow bored with the game and leave altogeather. I hope that Miller comes back and helps find ways to make it harder for airlines to operate like that, it really kills the game, and I'm pretty sure he made the game for more than just 10 people, but that is just me.

#52070 KaaiElEm's Bulls***t

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 06 November 2007 - 03:40 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

I meant rape as in kill his routes, not actually rape, thats a lil rediculous over a game.

Anyway Im done with this game, I'll just site here like watchdog and piss everyone else off, whos gonna stop me? millers never here

No, but Australis comes by, and he is a mod. Speaking of watchdog, is he serioulsy a senior admin now?

#52068 KaaiElEm's Bulls***t

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 06 November 2007 - 03:33 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Whoa whoa! Calm down man, no need to rape anyone, it's just a free, small online game, there are many others you can play if AE dosn't fit you well enough. And he's not really Juan Trippe 2, since he's not putting gates into negatives. He's just playing the game that makes max profit for him, I personally don't think it does the sim any good, but he's free to play as he likes, as long as it's within the rules and from how I see, it's still within the rules.

#52065 KaaiElEm's Bulls***t

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 06 November 2007 - 01:17 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

I guess he play the game "by the rules, whether you like it or not." I'm not playing this game as much since there really is no room to move around here and too many massive loopholes are left open due to neglect. Best I can say it should be a good idea to move out when routes get too crowded.

I'm not a huge fan of how he and some other players play too in this sim. But since it's not against the rules, I guess he can operate 50 A380s on one route if he wished.

#51948 Domestics

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 25 October 2007 - 11:54 AM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

OK now im getting the BS treatment, I put a $9 fare on a 1x A319 and get 19% LF, HOW DOES KAAIELEM GET LF ON $20 on A380!!!!!!! Just look at this:

My guess would be is that he has a considerably larger hub, thus letting him get way more connecting passengers. Something tells me though that Kaaielem isn't activly playing AE anymore (at least for this round). Since this round has become rather screwed up (at least in the Sim 1 world), many had left for other games that have a lot more action in them right now.

#51885 Domestics

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 23 October 2007 - 03:23 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Seems perfectly legal to me, though a pain in the butt if you're not that airline. The game is pretty screwed up, hopefully, miller will come out and reset the game, or better yet, hire a admin team to work out all the bugged up crap so this game can get back ot the level it was once at.

#51862 Airline Empires Version 3...

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 21 October 2007 - 10:35 PM in Announcements

So...is everything here hopeless? If so, I'll just return to the shadows of the Diecast Aircraft Forum...

In my opinion, it looks like that, many players are migrating to other games or even just stop playing altogeather. I think though this mass migration might benefit AE though. Less players might make the game more playable. But miller or whoever he gets to work on it must work on making hte game better. Afterall, this is the biggest largest free multiplayer game of this genre on the net, but if things go the way they do, it'll becoming just a hollowed out shell that has practically been forgotten.

#51844 Airline Empires Version 3...

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 21 October 2007 - 02:43 PM in Announcements

Just be concerned with your own sim game and stop pestering others in this game.

It is players like you that make concern to the mass exit of many a good player in AE

Hey, don't blame Stephen's game or even Stpehen in general for all this, watchdog. At my last check, he wasn't the one causing gates to go into negatives, or even doing a large amount of the bad cheating around the game. To be honest, even without it, many players would've left because of how unplayable the game tends to become for those not in the top 100! You have to remember, there was no one to deal with the cheating and the hacking going on in the game, also the lack of many features in AE, like maybe something called order. Eventually people are gonna grow sick and tired of that and unless something is done, AE is gonna flatline because very few are playing it due to the issues that arose, with or without Stephen's game.

Somehow, I have a feeling we might not see a new version of AE. I even have a feeling we might not see a reset for a very long time. Only way it'll happen is if Miller decides to "hire" a few players to admin the game as well as code up new things into the game.

#51527 Latest from the sim.airlineempires.net IDIOT

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 07 October 2007 - 06:23 AM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Is Juan even aware that he's caused a federal felony? Even if he does get caught though, how will we know he and his supposed "buddies" won't be able to strike again? I just hope miller gets back so he can finally get this poor poor man. He did a great job of scaring people to other sims though. Congrats, Trippin Jerk, you pretty much killed off AE for the most part (or so it feels like)!

#51123 Story to server being down?

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 19 September 2007 - 08:14 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

My friend thought it was the X-Plane forums who made it overload. He posted it there and he said like half the people there signed up to play. I had a feeling inside of me that Juan Tripping had something to do with this. How did he get your email adresses anyway?

#51064 This is Rediculous

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 15 September 2007 - 06:36 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

No I have legit 767/ 737 orders at the end (at least I think i do) and they come the month after you ask for them. I get annoyed at KaaiElEm to sometims, what's the motherfudging point of having 1,500 A380's, and then putting them on domestics. Grrr. My advice, would be to forget all about this.

EDIT: By the way, has anyone else noticed that since they started discussing KaaiElEM's technique, $100 fare competition on their routes has mysteriously increased?

It increase's your airline's net value, which overall increases your ranking, thats the point of it.

To thread starter:
You'll get your 737s much sooner than you think. Everyone can only recieve 2 planes per month, so you'll get bumped up much higher after that month.

#51063 newest from Juann Trippe

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 15 September 2007 - 06:24 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

This is just plain stupid! Juan, you may think you're helping the smaller airlines with this continued bullcrap, but indeed, you're doing more harm than good, halting their expansion. Just stop already! It's stupid and pointless, as well as invalidating YOUR argument. Who in this "alliance" that Juan seems to head in really thinks this is a good idea? Obviously, common sense did not not prevail there.

#51028 Europe destroyed

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 14 September 2007 - 04:09 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Looks like JuanTripping is back, or we have a wanna-be "H4X0Rz", he re-trashed Europe. Airports that had gotten out of the high negatives are back in the high negatives.

#50991 lease gates

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 12 September 2007 - 09:32 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

I wish it was, it could help a lot of other players that are having trouble finding gates after the hoggers put them on their 105x 100nm routes. But no, it is not possible, so you'll have to live with what you have now. But you don't have to worry about those gates being taken away from your airline as they belong to you already (even though you still have to pay rent for it.)

#50953 Europe destroyed

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 11 September 2007 - 04:28 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Looks like that Europe is coming back into shape now, many numbers are back up to zero or in the positives. Still many in the -1000s though as well.

#50926 newest from Juann Trippe

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 10 September 2007 - 05:06 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Appears that he had begun, and the first 5-10 are already in the -1000s. Looks like the US will be in the same crap that Europe is in. Only safe places looks like S. America, and Asia, and the Pacific areas, as well as Africa, and soon that will probebly be hit too.

#50918 newest from Juann Trippe

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 10 September 2007 - 02:07 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

What an idiot, dosn't he realise that he is actually affecting the smaller guys he claims to defend worse than the Big guys (who can afford decent terminals by now anyways.) The guy might've had a somewhat valid point in the beginning, but now its just plain out stupid! Juan, just buzz off and try some other airline sims out there for a change.

#50867 Miller !! Down the game make adjustments and start again?

Posted by LOT 737-300 on 09 September 2007 - 10:38 PM in Game Discussion (SIM2)

Next time she's on AIM, I'll talk to her.

Just thought you wanna know, I think Miller is a guy, despite the first name.