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clarion3

clarion3

Member Since 07 Jan 2016
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In Topic: Convair CV-580, CV-600 & CV-640 (AKA -240-D, -340-D & -440-D)

18 May 2024 - 03:58 PM

Whilst I hate to revive an old thread, but I felt this was an important one to revive. The Convair 580/600 is needed in the game. The performance differences are significant, comparable to that of the 70-series DC-8s. Several cherished, historic carriers had these "prop-jet" Convairs which soldiered on well into the 90s with commuter carriers (and even 1 major, though NW may have retired them in '89.. my memory is fuzzy).

I have taken the liberty of compiling some proposed specifications for both. I'll cite the current data for the piston drivin Convairliners (240/340/440) already in the game and the data published on Prop-Liners.com as my base, along with runway data from short field airports both the 580 and 600 flew in/out of regularly in scheduled service with Air Chatham in NZ along with Trans Texas Airways/Texas International throughout Arkansas/Louisiana, and last recorded conversion dates for the planes for end of production. 

 

Name: Convair CV-580

Family: Convairliner

Average Speed: 325 mph

Max Seats: 52

Range: 1,863 miles (2,866 max)

Turn Time: 20 min

Average Min. Runway Length: 4,254 ft

Base Price: $16,200,000

Monthly Lease: $180,000

Delivery Starts: January 19th, 1960

Production Ends: End of 1969

Engines: 2

Name: Allison 501-D13D

Thrust: 3,800

Weight: 1,750

Fuel Flow: 2,930

Adjusted Price: 16,200,000

Adjusted Lease: 180,000

Adusted Speed: 325

Adjusted Range: 1,863 (2,866 max)

Adjusted Min. Runway Length: 4,254 ft

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Name: Convair CV-600

Family: Convairliner

Average Speed: 309 mph

Max Seats: 48

Range: 1,235 miles (1,900 max)

Turn Time: 20 min

Average Min. Runway Length: 4,098 ft

Base Price: $13,900,000

Monthly Lease: $154,444

Delivery Starts: May 20th, 1965

Production Ends: End of 1968

Engines: 2

Name: Rolls Royce Dart RDa10 Mk 542-4

Thrust: 2,750

Weight: 1,560

Fuel Flow: 2,540

Adjusted Price: 13,900,000

Adjusted Lease: 154,444

Adusted Speed: 309

Adjusted Range: 1,235 (1,900 max)

Adjusted Min. Runway Length: 4,098 ft

 

Additionally, I would like to note/request the production dates for the piston-driven Convairliners be corrected. In the game, currently, all of the piston-driven Convairliners end production at the end of 1965. The last Convair 440 was delivered in June of 1959, last Convair 340 was delivered in September of 1955, and the last Convair 240 was delivered sometime during 1954 (though, to the military, the last civilian 240 was delivered in 1952, I believe). These dates are quite a bit off from 1965.