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Hi all,
Further to my recent posts about incorrect data, I believe there may also be some errors with the ATR -42 and -72 family of turboprops. In particular, the range of the -600 series is significantly overstated.
There are also a few types missing (42-320 and 72-210), which I have requested in the “aircraft requests” thread.
Observations based on this brochure from the ATR website: http://www.atraircra...ptembre2014.pdf
I couldn’t find historical data for the ATR-42-200, but it’s possible these numbers need updating as well.
ATR-42-300
AE Max Payload Range = 579 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 525 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,405 (units??)
ATR Fuel Flow = 1,252 lb/hr
AE Min Runway = 4,378 ft
ATR Min Runway = 3,576 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 242 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 306 mph (266 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 50
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 48
ATR-42-400
AE Max Payload Range = 617 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 914 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,507 (units??)
ATR Fuel Flow = 1,296 lb/hr
AE Min Runway = 3,415 ft
ATR Min Runway = 3,953 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 245 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 300 mph (261 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 50
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 48
ATR-42-500
AE Max Payload Range = 650 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 824 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,275 (units??)
ATR Fuel Flow = 1,788 lb/hr
AE Min Runway = 3,415 ft
ATR Min Runway = 3,822 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 345 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 345 mph (300 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 50
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 48
ATR-42-600 – Note: the -600 is exactly the same as the -500 except for updated cockpit
AE Max Payload Range = 1,651 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 824 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,252 (units??)
ATR Fuel Flow = 1,788 lb/hr
AE Min Runway = 3,350 ft
ATR Min Runway = 3,822 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 310 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 345 mph (300 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 50
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 48
ATR-72-200
AE Max Payload Range = 660 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 1,004 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,246 (units??)
ATR Fuel Flow = 1,587 lb/hr
AE Min Runway = 3,931 ft
ATR Min Runway = 4,623 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 243 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 320 mph (278 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 74
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 66
ATR-72-500
AE Max Payload Range = 666 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 903 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,387 (units??) – PW127
ATR Fuel Flow = 1,680 lb/hr – PW127F/M
AE Min Runway = 3,410 ft
ATR Min Runway = 4,016 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 318 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 317 mph (275 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 74
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 68
ATR-72-600
AE Max Payload Range = 1,528 mi
ATR Max Payload Range = 949 mi
AE Fuel Flow = 2,443 (units??)
ATR Fuel Flow = lb/hr
AE Min Runway = 4,560 ft
ATR Min Runway = 4,373 ft
*AE Ave. Speed = 305 mph
*ATR Max Speed = 317 mph (275 ktas)
AE Max Pax = 78
ATR “Standard Config” Pax = 70
* I wasn’t sure what “average speed” refers to, and I couldn’t find any reference to “average speed” in the documentation, so I have included the stated maximum speed for reference.
Regarding passenger numbers, the maximum passenger/seat number in AE is just that a maximum and is based on the aircraft certification. The "Standard Configs" you are referring to are simply manufacturer recommendations rather than the certified maximum number of seats
Fuel flow can't be changed can it? It's all due to an algorithm, isn't it? And then there's also the runway length which is probably the only thing that can be changed.
Regarding passenger numbers, the maximum passenger/seat number in AE is just that a maximum and is based on the aircraft certification. The "Standard Configs" you are referring to are simply manufacturer recommendations rather than the certified maximum number of seats
Apologies - I thought there may be a difference between standard and max, but thought I'd include the numbers in any case. Always happy to have more seats available, rather than less, so long as it's accurate!
Fuel flow can't be changed can it? It's all due to an algorithm, isn't it? And then there's also the runway length which is probably the only thing that can be changed.
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the backend of AE, so wasn't sure what was editable or not.
My main suggestion for corrections really relates to range, and runway length as well I guess, which both seem to be out in AE. Are these changeable?
I've gone through all of the proposed changes and made those which are applicable; as stated, FF can't be changed but the speeds and runway requirements have been modified.
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