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EMB Family - various incorrect data

Posted by Strait_Hopper on 08 January 2017 - 10:59 AM

Hi all,

 

 

I was just perusing the Embraer site and have found that the current official ranges for all of the EMB family aircraft are incorrect, along with min runway lengths, cruise speeds, engine stats and (in some cases) cabin sizes. Not sure if there has been a change in the stats over time after some sort of refresh, or if the original entries are just off? The engine types listed on the official EMB page are the same as in the AE data, and AFAIK there hasn't been any major fuselage changes since start of production, so...

 

 

Also, I couldn't find any data sets for "fuel flow" of the respective engines, so if anyone can double check those stats, that would be great!

 

 

*Note: I've only included the stats against each model where there is a discrepancy.

 

 

EMB170

 

 

Sources:

 

http://www.embraerco...Performance.pdf

 

http://www.embraerco.../E170_Cabin.pdf

 

http://www.embraerco...E170_Engine.pdf

 

 

EMB 170 STD

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,347 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,071 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 4,369 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 4,029 ft

 

 

Current AE max seats = 80

 

Official max seats = 78

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.75 mach (575mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 2,470 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 2,627 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 14,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 14,200 lb

 

 

EMB 170 LR

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1571 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,417 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 4,709 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 5,190 ft

 

 

Current AE max seats = 80

 

Official max seats = 78

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.75 mach (575mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 2,470 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 2,627 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 14,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 14,200 lb

 

 

EMB175

 

 

Sources:

 

http://www.embraerco...Performance.pdf

 

http://www.embraerco...E175_Engine.pdf

 

 

EMB 175 STD

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,347 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,014 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 4,828 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 5,289 ft

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.75 mach (575mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 2,470 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 2,627 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 14,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 14,200 lb

 

 

EMB 175 LR

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,571 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,474 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 5,330 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 5,656 ft

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.75 mach (575mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 2,470 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 2,627 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 14,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 14,200 lb

 

 

E190

 

 

Sources:

 

http://www.embraerco...Performance.pdf

 

http://www.embraerco...E190_Engine.pdf

 

 

E190 STD

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,554 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,129 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 4,760 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 5,243 ft

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.75 mach (575mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 3,800 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 3,700 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 18,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 20,000 lb

 

 

E190 LR

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,985 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,762 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 5,381 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 6,004 ft

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.78 mach (599mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 3,800 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 3,700 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 18,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 20,000 lb

 

 

E195

 

 

Sources:

 

http://www.embraerco...Performance.pdf

 

http://www.embraerco...E195_Engine.pdf

 

http://www.embraerco.../E195_Cabin.pdf

 

 

 

E195 STD

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,208 mi

 

Official payload range = 1,841 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 5,389 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 5,715 ft

 

 

Current AE max seats = 122

 

Official max seats = 124

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.78 mach (599mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 3,800 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 3,700 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 18,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 20,000 lb

 

 

E195 LR

 

 

Current AE payload range = 1,600 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,302 mi

 

 

Current AE takeoff length = 6,078 ft

 

Official takeoff length = 6,535 ft

 

 

Current AE max seats = 122

 

Official max seats = 124

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.78 mach (599mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 3,800 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 3,700 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 18,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 20,000 lb

 

 

E195 AR

 

Current AE payload range = 2,675 mi

 

Official payload range = 2,647 mi

 

 

Current AE max seats = 122

 

Official max seats = 124

 

 

Current AE ave speed = 553mph

 

Official ave speed = 0.78 mach (599mph)

 

 

Current AE engine weight = 3,800 (lb?? not sure of unit)

 

Official engine weight = 3,700 lb

 

 

Current AE max engine thrust = 18,500 lb

 

Official max engine thrust = 20,000 lb


Also, please note that for runway lengths I have referred to MTOW (maximum take off weight) lengths. I wasn't sure if this was the preferred measurement or not? There are other minimum runway measurements in the source docs.







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