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Boeing 737-500/600/900ER Seating Capacity

Posted by Airbus A320 on 20 May 2012 - 04:59 PM

In AE the Boeing 737-500s seating capacity has been changed from 132 to 140. According to the Boeing website, 132 is the max capacity. Also, the 737-600 has been changed from 132 to 149, but yet again the original value is correct. The 737-900ER has an FAA limit of 215 seats, but AE gives 220 as the seating capacity.

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http://www.boeing.co...background.html
http://www.boeing.co...aps/737sec2.pdf

This information was recently updated to reflect the type certificates of the aircraft, which is the standard source for this kind of data

Regarding the -900ER, it can carry 220 with a door modification.

In R5 a Boeing 737-600 has a capacity of 149 passengers which is obviously wrong as that is what a -700 is.

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As per Type Certificate

Maximum Passengers:
113 (737-100 Series Airplanes), 124 if compliance with FAR 25.2(B), ©, & (d) at Amendment 25.20 is shown.
119 (737-200/200C Series Airplanes), 136 if compliance with FAR 25.2(B), ©, & (d) is shown.
149 (737-300 Series Airplanes).
188 (737-400 Series Airplanes), limited by FAR 25.803©
140 (737-500 Series Airplanes), limited by FAR 25.807(d).
149 737-600
149 737-700
189 737-800
189 737-900
737-900ER
Three exit configurations based on the activation and classification of the Mid-Cabin Emergency Door
(MED)
Two door arrangement with MED de-activated has 189 maximum passenger capacity
Three door arrangement with MED activated and rated as a Type II exit – 215 maximum passenger
capacity
Three door arrangement with MED activated and rated as a Type I exit – 220 maximum passenger
capacity

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/a53bc308954e167e862579a500782155/$FILE/A16WE%20Rev%2050.pdf

I don't understand why it is obviously wrong - as I said above, the information is drawn from the aircraft's Type Certificate.

Sure, using the certified number may be the 'correct' way to do something, but having the 737-600 as the same size as the 737-700 is misleading and has a significant impact on the game.
The 737 series is designed so that the 737-700 is bigger than the 737-600. Leaving these the same size in game will have a serious, unrealistic effect on 736/73G sales. This is before even mentioning the fact a 149Y 736 would be lucky to have 26" of pitch. Technically 149 is correct, but ~130 is a much more sensible number.
Sure, realistic legroom numbers may come in 4.0, but think how long away that is. We're better off using the number that won't totally ruin the realism of 737NG sales in the meantime.

If I start making numbers up, what is the point of my role here? I am attempting to keep conformity, so that when game changes happen, they can be made uniformly. If I allow exceptions here, then there are hundreds of other exceptions that people may make a case for. Then we are back at square one with incorrect data all over the place and all subjectively created.

If we took the max no. of seats with 28" pitch, that would fix this issue. I believe the only planes affected would be the 735, 736 and 734.
If the data works fine in AE4, put it on a list to implement in AE4.
The data at present implies the 736 is the same size as the 73G. This is hugely wrong. Sure, working to the system may be fine in an ideal world, but sometimes it's better to have a more sensible number.

As I said, I am not one to create arbitrary values.
In theory, a real airline can put 149 people on the 736. I see no reason to prevent that here. If I did, no doubt someone would comment and I would have no justification to back it up, nor any justification to prevent other modifications.

I understand your point, but see no reason to ammend my policy.





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