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Ok so I read the FAQs and have skimmed pages of the New Member forum but can't find the answer to this. So don't get all :busted: on me because I tried haha. I know the differences between Open and Realistic worlds. However, I have two airlines, both in Open worlds, and I can't open a route from anywhere buy my HQ airport. So, to avoid having to ask a very similar question in a few months, I have 2 questions:

1) In an open world (my scenario) why can't I open a route between two other countries and what do I have to do so I will be able to?

2) In a realistic world, if you can't open a route between two other countries, how do you expand outside of your country?

I leased gates at the other airports but it still says I don't have any available aircraft.

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1) The only thing I can think of is due to scheduling. As an example, if you have an aircraft flying LHR-GLA, it can't fly EDI-BRS. The aircraft physically can't do it - you need to schedule GLA-BRS or LHR-EDI or GLA-EDI to ensure that the aircraft is in position.

2) In a realistic world, you don't expand out of your country. I can't think of any real world airlines with major foreign operations without the benefit of OpenSkies treaties. In game, a number of openskies treaties are replicated - the EU and Australia/NZ. This means in a realistic world, after the year 2000, a UK-based airline can fly UK to anywhere in the world, but additionally it can fly from France to Germany and other intra-EU flights.


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1) I guess that would make sense. :blush: Gotta get the plane there if you want it to depart from there.

2) So choosing a HQ out of a tiny country in a realistic world is pretty much suicide? Because you can't really expand outside of a few airports?

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2) Not entirely. If its small enough, not many people will fly there. :P
I've seen quite a few successful airlines around the world. un1 has one working out of TLL and I've had them on various caribbean islands.


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Good to know. Now next question, how do you send a one way flight (on old worlds and beta)?

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can't happen yet.

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It can't happen? Tons of other airlines have it...I'm confused :wallbash:

So if I'm based out of Tokyo Narita [NRT] and I want to have a flight from [MIA] to [LAX] (hypothetically), how could i make that happen?

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I've seen 1 city airlines successfully based in really small cities (like Katmandu and Alert, Canada) so it isn't suicide. Besides there are some really good 1 city countries that have decent demand (SIN, HKG).

Also basing in a city 24 times smaller than HKG doesn't make having a large airline with a sprawling network impossible, I've shown that it is possible, with Estonian Air in the 70s beta. :P

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Also we had one way flight in the beta at one point (when frequency was daily not weekly) but it was taken out due to lack of usage. Pretty much 1 way flights are 1x weekly just you get a return trip. :P

So if I'm based out of Tokyo Narita [NRT] and I want to have a flight from [MIA] to [LAX] (hypothetically), how could i make that happen?


In an open world you have 2 options,
1. Save an aircraft just for that flight so it has no routes and its base can be LAX or MIA.
2. Operate LAX-NRT 1x weekly and then continue onto MIA.

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Ok, I like the sound of 1. better than 2. because I don't care about the flight over there, I just want to send flights out of there. So how can I get the plane "shipped" directly to "[LAX]" and open a route from there?

Sorry if this is really obvious and I'm missing the point, I just cant figure this out for the life of me...

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Just open the flight, as long as the aircraft has no prior routes it will just magically appear (I know rather unrealistic :P ).

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So hypothetically, you can scope out the highest-density, least-traveled routes on the whole planet and fly them? :disgusted: That would make for a quite unique route map :giggle:

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I don't know what your saying but I'll try to explain.

Rule 1 : You can only fly routes out of your home country.
Rule 2 : No stopovers yet.

1Ok, If I want to fly to Narita, but I'm based in Beijing, I can fly to Seoul, but I can't fly from Seoul to Narita, because that would break Rule 1.

2However, If I am based in Paris, I can operate routes from Bermuda to Miami, because Bermuda is part of the UK, the UK is part of the EU, and France is also part of the EU.

3Unlike the Asian example, if I want to fly to Rome from London, I can fly to Paris, then I can fly from Paris to Rome, because of the EU agreement.


EU has an agreement that you can fly from London ( or any other EU city) to Paris (or any other EU country) and then from Paris fly to Geneva (even though Switzerland isn't in EU). But you can't fly from Geneva to Germany, if your based in London, because Geneva is not a EU member city. It's easy to understand once you know it.

My last example.... with imaginary countries and cities.
Snorf = In the EU
Boggle = In the EU (your base country)
Barf = In the EU
Dogla = Not In the Eu
Dirt = Not in the EU

Boogle - Barf - Dogla OK
Dogla - Dirt - Boggle NO
Snorf - Boggle - Dogla OK
Dirt - Barf - Snorf OK

I'm probably making it a little more confusing, if I am, sorry.



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Haha I had it figured out before all of that, but if it makes you feel any better, I followed you through it. But for next time, instead of Snorf, Dogla, and Boggle, simple A, B, and C would probably be easier to understand. At least for me. But thanks! All cleared up now and I have plenty of places to fly my newly arrived 767s and 747s :thumbup:

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I don't know what your saying but I'll try to explain.

Rule 1 : You can only fly routes out of your home country.


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