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[craigdwatson]

Hi Guys! Please vote and feel welcome to discuss my own or your own take on this....

How about as I have mentioned in the past....
I operate a Spanish airline (Vuela Espana) and a Canadian airline (CanadianJet), joined by an alliance (VEA)
Choose one airline name, be able to operate subsidiaries of that airline. maybe a limit to 2 within home country and 1 outside of home country such as for my current airline set up in the beta...

Name:.... e.g. VE Group (Could just be the primary airline name if preferred)

Airline 1: Vuela Espana (Primary airline, based in home country)
Optional Airline 2: VE Regional, VE CityJet (Secondary airline based in same country)
Optional Airline 3: CanadianJet (Third airline, restricted to separate home country to primary airline)

> Use only the logo and name e.g. Air UK Group on ranking tables, combine the financial data across the group but the ability to view operational profit data for each subsidiary.
> Combined reputation (Individual would be too difficult I'm guessing?), maybe separate employee settings
> The hard part I'm guessing would be managing which routes are for which subsidiary? this could be managed simply by assigning the actual aircraft to operate exclusively to the relevant airline. Maybe use different colours on aircraft table?... but easily swappable
> Use airline details page rather than rankings table for info on Subsidiaries maybe info regarding fleet and hubs individually, but on ONE airline details page?

The idea I've explained would not increase the airline limit above 2 per world, it just involves splitting one of them in a way that allows users more control and ways to make their airline unique.
I may be taking this too far however I do think it would work well and gives a fair balance of restrictions and flexibility!

Any Thoughts?

Thanks

[bolli]

A stock market was once operated, however it caused global financial meltdown..... Because thats unrealistic

[craigdwatson]

Where exactly did I mention a stock market? Its simply a suggestion to split the one primary "Name" into 3 seperate operational subsidiaries as I explained above the maximum of 3 airlines would be controlled under a single airline name regarding financial data and ranking, only separator would be allocating the actual aircraft into one of the three fleets (With each subsidiary with separate names and fleet/hub details on airline details page). I didn't suggest anything regarding a stcok market or any changes to the alliance set ups, I don't understand how you see that as anything similar to a stock market feature? Its simple a suggestion to combine the restriction of 2 airlines per world with more flexibility are customisable options....

[ccvl]

Where exactly did I mention a stock market? Its simply a suggestion to split the one primary "Name" into 3 seperate operational subsidiaries as I explained above the maximum of 3 airlines would be controlled under a single airline name regarding financial data and ranking, only separator would be allocating the actual aircraft into one of the three fleets (With each subsidiary with separate names and fleet/hub details on airline details page). I didn't suggest anything regarding a stcok market or any changes to the alliance set ups, I don't understand how you see that as anything similar to a stock market feature? Its simple a suggestion to combine the restriction of 2 airlines per world with more flexibility are customisable options....

Subsidiaries are coming soon

[craigdwatson]

Subsidiaries are coming soon

Yer I know, I'm just sharing my ideas on how it could be introduced in a simple but effective way, or at least I thought that lol

[Sheepy]

Quote;
'> Combined reputation (Individual would be too difficult I'm guessing?), maybe separate employee settings'

No, as many subsidiaries are low cost. (e.g. Qantas/Jetstar)

[craigdwatson]

Quote;
'> Combined reputation (Individual would be too difficult I'm guessing?), maybe separate employee settings'

No, as many subsidiaries are low cost. (e.g. Qantas/Jetstar)

Read the part in brackets????? I think individual would be best but may be too difficult at an early stage....

[craigdwatson]

So you're offering an alternative that isn't at all practical? Yeah, great idea...

Isn't at all practical?.... I welcome feedback but please explain more than just that, Individual reputation would be great but it would likely be too difficult to code I think. This is nothing more than a few suggestions I'm not claiming to be an expert..

I agree that if a low cost sub was operated that the reputation would of course be different due to IFS and staff wages...

My idea is that if the suggestion I made was well recieved by users and considered, during the early testing stages it would be easier just to give reputation data for the airline "Group" overall if that was easier to introduce as I'm sure other features are also priority and time consuming

[JamesP]

I personnaly think this is a great idea Hope it is implemented sooooonnn!!!!!

[craigdwatson]

Thanks JamesP...

It's very similar method to how the current rounds are set up, but automatically putting your airlines into one group, and option of a 3rd airline within existing home country.

Main difference I suggest is for a combined details page and ranking and finance system accounting for the group overall

[aidan11]

Sounds great!

[Alfrenzo]

craig, if your suggestion is implemented Lufthansa would be blocked for anti-competition

[craigdwatson]

As my airlines are normally based in Europe (Spain & UK).... that would be a real shame

Many airlines merge or take over smaller competitors, but for marketing/branding choose not to re-brand the operations they have taken over, such as Air France's regional partners as they call it, or how most major US airlines operate 2-3+ regional 'brands' within the same parent airline company.... however in AE there needs to be some limits so that one user can't take over the world

[ar157]

As i have proposed before we take control of 1 holding company and can open subsidiaries with a minimum of $10,000,000 being injected into the new subsidiary and also 1 starting aircraft for the new subsidiary.

[highland]

even though this thread was started like two life times of moses ago.... the idea if it's something like this.... i'd like it...

say for instance i was to pick an airport in texas " for the sake of it " we'll say austin. and from there made one route to all the other airports in texas. then did the vary same thing in say ohio... ok, " thinking " all those inner state routes would be the sub company. and the hub to hub routes " texas to ohio " would be parent company routes. . . .

oh ya' . . . i could like this idea. . . . .

[Alfrenzo]

I'm going with objection still.

Lufthansa owns so many subsidiaries. SAS too. How about the Virgin Group, Qantas, AirAsia?

Your idea is right smack on unrealistic as 1) Some companies don't have subsidiaries, 2) Companies with subsidiaries usually have tons of 'em.

AE ain't your arcade game you play.

[ar157]

3 subsidaries then? (regional/some overseas venture/and another one for the desperate)

[Alfrenzo]

Why not let's just throw away this seemingly useless and unrealistic topic?

[ar157]